Solution to trading idea !!

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

So, after all this time after reading various posts and threads about how the trading system would be, if implemented, 'exploited' by alts.
Right now, right here, I have come up with the perfect solution (At least in my mind) that shall give us a trading system but not 'exploited' with alts, in fact for that matter it is a trading system that will not be used between two individual players..

The trading system that I think of will be you, the player trading with Tynon themselves...

Let me propose some examples of how I plan this:

1.) If you have a lvl 1 chip obsidian, you could have the option to trade with Tynon for another lvl 1 chip either at your choice or random (Up to Tynon)
Note: This goes for all lvl chips.

2.) This is kind of already in the fair, but it is the trade between credits and coins which a lot of people could benefit from.. What I propose is that you can trade 1 million coins for 500k credits (Working with a ratio of 2 (coins):1 (credits))

3.) Lots of us and I admit including me get certain gear that we don't want from hr .. To the people who have finished hr, don't worry as I'm sure we will get new hr bosses soon enough. What I propose is a trade of the gear that you receive in hr with correspondence to the other gear that, that specific hr boss drops.

4.) We could trade 10 Blue Medals with 1 Purple Medal.

What I think of this system that I suggest to you, to not be 'exploited' is that a person who is:
Basic: 3 free trades
Vip 1: 4 free trades
Vip 2: 5 free trades
Vip 3: 6 free trades
Vip 4: 7 free trades
Vip 5: 8 free trades
Vip 6: 9 free trades
..
..
Vip 12: 15 free trades

*Free: I mean AVAILABLE*

Each individual player gets that amount of free trades PER DAY

Please feel welcome to add suggestions that are REALISTIC and NOT likely to be exploited by anyone in anyway ... hopefully a rep or dev will perhaps stumble on this thread

[Moonshadeaux_3172622]

So how does this keep alts from using it just any other toon?

[kaisim_2492829]

first of all: why does there have to be a solution to a non-existent problem?

that being said, i would like the idea of NPC-trades but there should be no trades for coins, credits or gems involved because of exploitation. meaning the trade-able items should only effect the actual player itself.

it would be nice to have a reform for material, card and mount sales. i would like to see being able to NPC a mount we dont use anymore for 50% of the coins/gems we SPENT for it, ergo if the player won the mount he/she wouldnt be able to sell it back to the NPC since you have the choice at the start to apply the card or to NPC it for half its value.
material values need to be raised significantly. i dont mind farming nothing to not stockpile stamina, but at least i want to get something better than 20k coins for the 99 whatever materials and 2-3 m 'ish would be much more appropriate (considering that 100 stamina is valued at 20 gems).


EDIT: all someone needs to exploit this is 1 free trade per day for his alts and you give them 3

[g346007_1906957]

If I am reading OP correctly, you can't trade with alts or any other player. It's just an exchange of resources like in the fair. Seems to be a good idea, but it's not really what people are asking for when they bring up trading.

[kaisim_2492829]

If I am reading OP correctly, you can't trade with alts or any other player. It's just an exchange of resources like in the fair. Seems to be a good idea, but it's not really what people are asking for when they bring up trading.

it doesnt have to, he says:

[...]in fact for that matter it is a trading system that will not be used between two individual players..[...]

problem is they dont need to trade, they can just exchange everything for coins and that way generate even more with their alts

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

Remember, it's just an idea where you are unable to trade with any other player in the game, it may not be what people are asking for but it will certainly be something.
As for you Kaisim, is it just or me or are the majority of your posts negative or you just don't read the OP carefully enough?

I think I just need to embrace myself for what Matt has got to say to this

[kaisim_2492829]

no its nothing personal. when i started the game i posted something like "wouldnt it be a great idea if we could trade... and why cant we...?" now after playing the game long enough and based on experience from the past, i have come to the conclusion that trade is the root of all evil.
look at it this way: in another post someone is complaining about his arena stakes. in particular about a box that most likely contains a material he cant craft in the first place or credits or some change, i forgot what it was about and it doesnt seem significant enough to waste my time to research it. however, the point is that if there is crybabies like that who complain about the arena so much to start flaming wars on the forum, what you think trade is gonna do to them?
i honestly thnk that a lot of players are not mature enough for it, or would exploit it, or would simply rip you off (example switch items from the trade window or say you get something but give you something similar looking 2 coins instead of 2m coins, etc...).

now that being said, you have to realize that many posts are bad ideas, like trading (no offense), riding spiders, trading coins for gems, etc. many of them are very specific, others are just a pure logistical nightmare and most of them ucool doesnt have the staff for it. aside from them ignoring the forums and not reading them, how do you thik stanley is gonna handle disputes between players based on trading, cheating and item switches? then all the complaints about players using alts, selling stuff for coins to farm even more, going up and down in arena to steal stakes from the "imaginative dummy players" (the not real ones that ucool placed to make the server appear as active) and so on...?

i dont think they want to get involved this far, plus when you look at the ucools flagship "evony" you can see they are not interested into trading, at all, ever, never ever.

now with all those upcoming complaints in mind and people crying about others just having a different opinion, how do you think it will go if they do introduce trades? (and dont forget, not everyone is as an honest person as you are)

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

Kaisim,

After reading your post I still don't feel that you understand my OP 100%
When I read your post you still talk about alts and exploitation.

Lets take the mounts feature as an example ... give me 1 way that the mounts feature could be exploited with alts
In my mind, when I gave the suggestion to a solution of trading, I thought of designing it in such a way that it is similar to the mounts feature.
The mounts feature, at least as I know it, can't be exploited by alts. So, I took this and said, ok lets have a trading feature which can't be exploited by alts
In a way, the trading suggestion I give is just like literally swap an item with tynon (Hence, not other players, whether or not they are your alt)

So basically what I feel you do not understand is that I intend on a trading system that is non-exploitable by simply trading your 'unwanted items' with Tynon and not your alts or other players in the game
Also another thing to mention is that if Tynon give us an option to trade coins with them for credits then they could work on fixed ratios such as 2 (coins): 1 (credits) at all time

[kaisim_2492829]

Kaisim,

After reading your post I still don't feel that you understand my OP 100%
When I read your post you still talk about alts and exploitation.

Lets take the mounts feature as an example ... give me 1 way that the mounts feature could be exploited with alts
In my mind, when I gave the suggestion to a solution of trading, I thought of designing it in such a way that it is similar to the mounts feature.
The mounts feature, at least as I know it, can't be exploited by alts. So, I took this and said, ok lets have a trading feature which can't be exploited by alts
In a way, the trading suggestion I give is just like literally swap an item with tynon (Hence, not other players, whether or not they are your alt)

So basically what I feel you do not understand is that I intend on a trading system that is non-exploitable by simply trading your 'unwanted items' with Tynon and not your alts or other players in the game
Also another thing to mention is that if Tynon give us an option to trade coins with them for credits then they could work on fixed ratios such as 2 (coins): 1 (credits) at all time

i made sufficient examples.
i would like a mount "sell-back-to-NPC-for-half-price-if-you-paid-coins-or-gems" feature. i am not sure what part you dont understand about it and why its unclear why this cant be exploited by alts? i mean if someone bought a rex with his 1B coins on his alt and sell it back for 500m and then farms the alt he would have lost 500m coins. instead he could farm the 1B coins directly and wouldnt buy the mount in the first place.
you are mostly talking about an "NPC EXCHANGE SYSTEM" that would be fine for me if it wouldnt involve gems or coin trades, otherwise they would trade everything for coins and have more to farm off their alts. a trade system on the other hand would involve "trade" with other players. its buying and selling goods and coins with other players.

@riot: customer care, expansion, updates, fixing issues and some advertising is what would fix this game

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

i made sufficient examples.
i would like a mount "sell-back-to-NPC-for-half-price-if-you-paid-coins-or-gems" feature. i am not sure what part you dont understand about it and why its unclear why this cant be exploited by alts? i mean if someone bought a rex with his 1B coins on his alt and sell it back for 500m and then farms the alt he would have lost 500m coins. instead he could farm the 1B coins directly and wouldnt buy the mount in the first place.
you are mostly talking about an "NPC EXCHANGE SYSTEM" that would be fine for me if it wouldnt involve gems or coin trades, otherwise they would trade everything for coins and have more to farm off their alts. a trade system on the other hand would involve "trade" with other players. its buying and selling goods and coins with other players.

@riot: customer care, expansion, updates, fixing issues and some advertising is what would fix this game

I now understand how this would be exploited with alts...

However, the only way that it would be exploited with alts is if there were coin and credit swaps .. would simply result in your alt getting less credits but more coins or vice versa.
So, therefore, we can still have an NPC EXCHANGE SYSTEM but with NO transfer with credits for coins or vice versa.

So, I say thank you for rephrasing it the way you do and apologize for not understanding how this could be exploited if implemented