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    Kaisim quoting the TOS, now there is a joke. By his own mouth he has admitted that the TOS is violated by having more then one person using the IP address. And it is his household that is doing it.
    As far as the thrown game, who gives a rats patoot? Everything in this game is glitched or exploited. Face it people the exploiters and cheats are winning the day and there is nothing you can do to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Are we going to do the "is it wrong to trow the fight" discussion all over again? I thought that we had beaten that to death the last time.
    Apparently not -_-

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622 View Post
    As far as the thrown game, who gives a rats patoot? Everything in this game is glitched or exploited. Face it people the exploiters and cheats are winning the day and there is nothing you can do to change it.
    I've quoted this to clarify something. It's not cheating or exploiting and that's directly from uCool. However, the problem is CWF for 99% of the player population is a way to accumulate tickets in exchange mainly for medals and occasionally cards. Well placed bets can reap 1000's of tickets so when finalists 'throw' fights it kinda reduces the wins.

    Now to play Devil's Advocate. You certainly can't bet on your opponent in CWF at any point and anyone who bet during any thrown fight will receive the amount due to them. There isn't a conspiracy and in this case Fleur explained why quite eloquently.

    To be honest I wish Tynon would get rid of CWF since it's only redeeming feature is the tickets. Let's face it, it causes more grief then anything lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparton_1280808 View Post
    Look. First off, I don't plan my CW finals strategy around you guys who may or may not be betting, sorry, you arent' central to my tactics. As I'm sure I am not central to yours. Second --- apart from the fact the Crown reset sucks, just when things were working nicely and we had several contenders like Ava, myself, others coming up who could and likely WOULD all win soon - - and now its a one horse race AGAIN --- you guys are missing the point and I m sure you would do the same in my position. Do you know what colour my chips were for a win today, in the final ? No, you don't, but I do, and they were crap. Why would I want to pull out all the stops today, even ASSUMING I could somehow beat someone 400 million bigger than me (those of you moaning you should try this first, before you criticise.... THEn you can talk) ---and my rewards would be what ? One more not very useful topaz 8 chip AND a permanent 5% handicap going foward ? No thank you. And anyone paying the slightest attention would have seen my form and not wasted any gems betting on me. And by the way Kaisim, you idiot, you DO know that I cannot bet on Blayd against myself, right ??? duurrrka durka.....

    And the form coming on wasn't really out of nowhere. It was round 7, when Blayd was 6-0 and had just clinched it so I knew it didnt matter if I won a few or not. It wasn't random.

    To clarify, my tickets earned go DOWN not up when I lose. I cant benefit ticket wise from that. Some of you seem to think otherwise, you don't understand how this game works still, obviously. Plus i could hardly have made it any more obvious to those betting, which rounds I was throwing. What part of it did you miss, those who were still betting on my solo main ?? And whats with the sudden attention ? Not a single post when I won two weeks ago.

    PS. Check the Asian servers finals out. It's happened there before too, this isn't a unique idea.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    You don't gain any bonus for winning/losing even if you add bets to yourself using gems.

    Fleur probably felt he couldn't win it anyway, and got a bad chip (Diamond, Ruby), so let Blayd have this one, so Fleur can get the next.


    At Fleur and Blayd's level, tickets don't matter anymore. If they wanted a hero maxxed out in stars, they use gems.

    They win for glory and the chips.
    so if fleur was gonna loose to begin with as you say, why go nakid and hit with main only? then if there was a bad chip, why change power back or make sure you loose a lost battle? powering down in a situation like this only means that you power down for your guild members and alts to place safe bets and max THEIR tickets; same for blayd and his alts.
    i wouldnt take you for that naive, so why are you trying to defend their actions?

    also, no one is talking about blayd powering down to 1 hero but then powering back up right away. at the beginning of the battles it showed him as a full party in the profile but then after the 2nd or 3rd match it showed him with his main hero only. so obviously there was communication...

    and to fleur: for all the above reasons: your alts, his alts, your guild members and friends. and for EXACTLY that reason you powered back up. small sacrifice for your main and huge gain for your buddies. well done. so far i was rooting for you, i was hoping you'd win and maybe get a lucky round in all the previous CW's, now i am done with you. i know it doesnt mean anything to you, but what you have done is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622 View Post
    Kaisim quoting the TOS, now there is a joke. By his own mouth he has admitted that the TOS is violated by having more then one person using the IP address. And it is his household that is doing it.
    As far as the thrown game, who gives a rats patoot? Everything in this game is glitched or exploited. Face it people the exploiters and cheats are winning the day and there is nothing you can do to change it.
    you need to stop taking things out of context and putting words into my mouth! another players said he doesnt like that ucool allows 9 year olds to gamble and i quoted the TOS saying that you must be of 13+ age (are you?). now that being said, my first born son is 19 and still lives with me while he is at university. my youngest daughter who is 9 also enjoys playing the game, but i let her play in a controlled environment, meaning i am NEXT TO HER while she is playing
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 08-17-2014 at 01:53 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    you need to stop taking things out of context and putting words into my mouth! another players said he doesnt like that ucool allows 9 year olds to gamble and i quoted the TOS saying that you must be of 13+ age (are you?). now that being said, my first born son is 19 and still lives with me while he is at university. my youngest daughter who is 9 also enjoys playing the game, but i let her play in a controlled environment, meaning i am NEXT TO HER while she is playing
    That being said of people who use their alts in this game (No names mentioned), you obviously have a very big problem with that ... and yes it is considered 'cheating' or 'against the rules'
    You have a daughter who is 9 years old where the TOS has clearly stated that under no circumstances may someone under the age of 13 play the game which is therefore considered 'against the rules'

    So, face it people will use alts even if it is against the rules ... other people will allow their children under the age of 13 play the game which is also against the rules
    In a controlled environment or not it STILL violates the TOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    That being said of people who use their alts in this game (No names mentioned), you obviously have a very big problem with that ... and yes it is considered 'cheating' or 'against the rules'
    You have a daughter who is 9 years old where the TOS has clearly stated that under no circumstances may someone under the age of 13 play the game which is therefore considered 'against the rules'

    So, face it people will use alts even if it is against the rules ... other people will allow their children under the age of 13 play the game which is also against the rules
    In a controlled environment or not it STILL violates the TOS
    thats not my point and you know it. please stay on topic and try ignore the flamer and stalker who is following me thru my posts because he is mad that i spoke up against his alts, his language, trolling, putting words in my mouth and twisting things to make himself look like the good guy (the same guy who tries to insult me for having "too many posts"). if there is anyone with a legitimate question about the game, forms, in game mechanics, etc i am always glad to help and will always try to help finding a solution if i cant come up with one.

    again: i dont use alts, i dont like when others play alts (but dont care enough about it in game either). i also dont like when those players complain to legitimate players and are trying to bully them. i dont like when certain people continue to cry about the same stuff and dont accept the fact that other people may have other opinions and refuse to take a second look at their own twisted mentality.

    i never said that my daughter created an account and i only pointed out that my son shares my wifi on his own computer in his own room. i also said that i am next to my daughter when she playes the game and has fun with it. i am a paying customer, my account is VIP6 and my crazy son is vip7 (and i am still mad at him for it because i think the game is in its last stages before they throw in the towel and tell us to go join another game and will give is a rebate on it, also he doesnt need it and prefers other games more).


    now to bring it back into context, i am curious what fleur and blayd have to say about the accusations and the fact that most players are disapointed or even mad at them.
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 08-17-2014 at 02:38 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Geesh who gives a stuff.
    Nowhere does it say you must be in your best form.
    At the end of the day fleur and blayd got to the final, if either of them choose to help their friends/guildies with betting by removing heroes thats their prerogative for making the final not against the rules.
    We just need to be more observant when betting and check forms.

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    I see nothing wrong in Fleur throwing the fight. What he / she did is keeping in mind the near future where blayd would be left handicapped with the disadvantages of crowns. I see a big problem in tynon dev staff deserting the game than what the players chose to do with their toons. They are not violating any rules or doing some thing that needs a wide discussion on the forums. There are much bigger problems which need be addressed for which we need to cry out loud.

    amen please lets stop arguing on this topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickeD View Post
    I see nothing wrong in Fleur throwing the fight.
    Lets agree to disagree here, just because it has been done in the past and somebody use's the excuse that the Asia servers are doing it doesn't make it right no matter what the excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by WickeD View Post
    I see a big problem in tynon dev staff deserting the game than what the players chose to do with their toons.
    Actually according to the follow quote they are talking, but only to one person which could give us hope for the future..

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    It's not cheating or exploiting and that's directly from uCool.
    Quote Originally Posted by WickeD View Post
    They are not violating any rules or doing some thing that needs a wide discussion on the forums.
    Thanks for bringing that up, actually calling someone out on the forum is against the forum rules and I find it disturbing that not only one mod but two are joining in instead of nerfing or closing this thread like they would do if say you or I called out player XXX by name for cheating or exploiting or what ever you would like to call it on any other topic.

    Then again who's going to bear the brunt of pointing that out? Probably me.............

    Quote Originally Posted by WickeD View Post
    There are much bigger problems which need be addressed for which we need to cry out loud.

    amen please lets stop arguing on this topic
    +1 to that for sure...........

    Honestly I have lost all respect for all of those involved and from here out I'll probably only lurk or participate in the forum for info about quest and heroics since the rest is just a mess of one person accusing another and those with power choosing to do what ever they feel like at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by becalvert_1151817 View Post
    Thanks for bringing that up, actually calling someone out on the forum is against the forum rules and I find it disturbing that not only one mod but two are joining in instead of nerfing or closing this thread like they would do if say you or I called out player XXX by name for cheating or exploiting or what ever you would like to call it on any other topic.
    Or we can call that an exaggerated statement. Two people only attempted to call it cheating which is why myself and Wicked nipped it the bud. The OP didn't and 98% of the contributors here haven't, so closing a thread over a couple of misguided statements would be a tad unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by becalvert_1151817 View Post
    Then again who's going to bear the brunt of pointing that out? Probably me.............
    By that alone I can tell you've realised you haven't read the thread in it's entirety and done what we've all been guilty of, jumping to our own conclusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by becalvert_1151817 View Post
    Honestly I have lost all respect for all of those involved and from here out I'll probably only lurk or participate in the forum for info about quest and heroics since the rest is just a mess of one person accusing another and those with power choosing to do what ever they feel like at the time.
    I know what this last statement adhered to. If you want to discuss why certain moderation decisions are made please PM the mod concerned and try to leave the sulky comments to yourself.

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    OK. Enough of this. Sorry I opened this, I just was taken by surprise at the final, but Fleur makes her points, and I in her shoes might do the same. Just never been there. (never will be in this CW as its set up). I was selfish, because my tickets were low, and I count on them every other week for the few expensive purple medals I can get. Apologies to Fleur. Rock on CW winners - this will never be fair, just something to do.

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