CW final??

[kaisim_2492829]

and you just don't get that its not an exploit, not at all now, not ever. the worst you can throw at this depends on your "morale standard" of how it went down.
I"m not afraid of punishment because it doesn't violate the ToS, which governs this game. So there never will be a punishment. The only punishment we have is to have to listen to people like you who think doing what you want with your acct is an exploit an makes whomever would partake in such a thing a cheater, a horrible person and we are prob goin to hell for it.

you are doing it again and paraphrasing to make it sound lesser and twisting words by taking them out of context!
the actual quote was:

[...]you can name is as you want, its still staging a fight and its not only morally wrong if players know how to place bets. you can dress it up as like and call it strategy or might as well put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig.

now that being said, the TOS reads:
CHEATS AND HACKS - You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: d. Use cheats, exploits, automation software, bots, hacks[...]

definition of an exploit according to mirriam-webster:
ex·ploit verb \ik-ˈsplȯit, ˈek-ˌ\
: to get value or use from (something)

: to use (someone or something) in a way that helps you unfairly

now you tell us exactly how it is NOT an exploit if their guilds and alts knew how to place the bets during the matches

[g346007_1906957]

Side topic, but potentially a good betting idea:

It would be nice if they allowed you to bet with greater tickets being given to bet on who will win in the "beginning" of the CWF. Now that would be nice.

Plus allow for betting each round like it is now.

Giving more options and tickets to all players.

But then I can see how a person can bet on the underdog and throw the fight yielding massive tickets at the end for himself. Unless you only get the option to pick who will win, if you are not in the knockout round after the preliminaries.

I'd still say toss all the betting. Make everything like the preliminaries but longer. Let's everyone fight each round, and no one will care who throws which fights.

[Morgan le Fay]

I think you need to go learn what the definition of a exploit is.

Its not an exploit, it doesn't violate ToS. You're making something out of nothing

Exploits by their definition are difficult to explain. One man's exploit is another man's trick. However you are right in this case uCool don't consider 'match fixing' as a illegal (as far as I know currently).

Whether an exploit is considered a cheat, or all exploits are cheats, is a matter of widespread debate that varies between genres, games, and other factors. The distinction is important as it decides how the developers and community responds to the issue and to the players who exploit the issue. On the one hand exploits can be considered illegitimate cheats that the developers should address and exploiters should be banned, while on the other hand exploits can be considered simply part of the game.

Arguments in favor of the cheating view involve the spirit of the game and the potentially damaging effects of the exploit on the game's community.[3][4] While the rules or game code may not explicitly disallow a specific exploit, it may be seen that using that exploit goes against the spirit of the game.[3] The potential damage of an exploit on a game has been described by an online community manager as "devastating".[4]

In defense of these behaviors are arguments that the rules of the game allow it and that players might not know they are behaving against the designer's intention.[5][6] So-called exploits, in this view, are not cheats because they do not change the game in any way and therefore could be accessible to all players if they know how to do it.[2] The players who use such techniques may consider them fair for use in the game in cases when they are not explicitly disallowed in the Terms of Service or other such rules governing participation.[5]

NB Wikipedia is not the most reliable source for information since it can be edited by anyone. However I thought this quote explained exploits and what is legal or not quite eloquently.

I find the definition of an exploit to be unclear as well. Clearing it wasn't meant for the players to throw their fights either and it's totally up to the player when they want to claim a reward... so your example doesn't mean anything. This is similar to powering down for HP which may or may not be an exploit.

We do know that throwing a match is not an exploit because Dawnseeker said it's not strictly cheating. But I honestly don't know what makes it different than an exploit.

I'll simplify this; uCool consider any manipulation of the game's coding to gain an advantage as an exploit. No one really gains much from fixing a CWF or dare I say it Heaven's Palace.

The only argument you can say against it, is that it isn't in 'spirit of the game' or the player has a south facing morale compass. Whatever, most really don't care much since it's unlikely they'll be in a position to 'throw' a final.

[Riot]

I'd still say toss all the betting. Make everything like the preliminaries but longer. Let's everyone fight each round, and no one will care who throws which fights.

I like this idea too. Just let everyone fight everyone, and one with the most wins take first, second, etc...

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

I like this idea too. Just let everyone fight everyone, and one with the most wins take first, second, etc...

What about if 1st 2nd and 3rd have same amount of wins/points at the end?
I got the answer but want to see if you all know?

[kaisim_2492829]

Exploits by their definition are difficult to explain. One man's exploit is another man's trick. However you are right in this case uCool don't consider 'match fixing' as a illegal (as far as I know currently).

and unfortunately that is exactly why they do it because they know that ucool doesnt care about cheaters, exploits, multiple accounts, etc ... i would even bet that is some that actually have some hack going to get more coins, better items, etc, but again it would be up to ucool to research, detect, prove and punish it




ps@morgan: i looked at wiki first but noticed the description that you quoted as well but didnt post it because its not a definition (as in the undisputed mirriam-webster) but is more a description with multiple authors and "ongoing" discussions.

[mparton_1280808]

My guild knew how to bid? I don't think so.

I had no contact with Blayd before, during or after CW.

[g346007_1906957]

What about if 1st 2nd and 3rd have same amount of wins/points at the end?
I got the answer but want to see if you all know?

In chess sometimes they do a computer tie break, which basically looks at the strengths of their opponents to evaluate who preformed best.

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

In chess sometimes they do a computer tie break, which basically looks at the strengths of their opponents to evaluate who preformed best.

Yes, so basically 1st place goes to the person who dealt the most damage on their opponent and so on

[Riot]

Yes, so basically 1st place goes to the person who dealt the most damage on their opponent and so on

Or we can have a final round to 7 or something if there is a tie.