thucydides vs SHAYD or Aphrodite

[brianpkelley68_351461]

Does Thucydides hit in banish more than Shayd or Aphrodite??? Or even Cianna... Just wondering .... because someone I know is using this hero and getting more damage and I have better runes and gear.

[jkwongfl_7919855]

shayd/aphro misses more than thucy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is better for banish...
the player might have better saints or a better die order

[Talia]

Stars too. In my current experience, a well-buffed Thucy can outdo Cianna. My best results are using Cianna and Shayd, and then Thucy as sub to replace my main, so I have 3 stunners, a DD (Lance) and Herja to keep the DD, Cianna and Thucy skill attacking as long as possible. (Not a Marshal yet, so don't have any experience with Aphrodite.)

[kaisim_2492829]

aphro better than both, then shayd. even tho the mages miss a lot more, their stun rate is significantly higher than from cianna/thucy

[AlDimeolaRules_7825391]

I have a standard set up for all my characters in Banish Baal/Cerb.

------- Cianna Shayd
------- Thucydides Weaker character
------- ----------- Strongest character

Substitution -> (where available second strongest character.

This is the basic strategy : Shayd attacks first one of 3 things happen a) miss, b) hit no stun, c) hit with stun
if a or b Cerb/Baal kills "weaker character"
if c weaker character gets an attack due to stun otherwise is killed and where applicable replaced by the substitute
Strongest character attacks next
Cianna attacks next (note I set Cianna with 100 morale) with chance of stun in case Shayd didn't stun
Thucydides attacks next (note I set him up with 75% morale so he doesn't have the stun attack till round 2)
Shayd gets second attack with chance of stun
Baal/Cerb if not stunned kills substitution or Thucydides
Strongest character attacks
Cianna attacks (stun possible depending on morale retention due to 6 sets)
Thucydides (if still alive) gets his stun chance on round 2 as his morale is at 100
Shayd attacks round 3 possible stun
Baal/Cerb if not stunned uses thousand strikes and kills all
Baal/Cerb if stunned doesn't attack
Strongest attacks etc. (where I have Bloodstorm he is in the "Strongest" with (100% morale to start) position and will in all cases get at least 2 skill attacks
then with each stun round he gets an additional attack

I get about 75% of the attack sequences at least one stun from the at least 1 of the three stunners making a critical hit
Usually 67% of the time 2 successful stuns
And my best was 13 stuns before the thousand strikes, and I usually get at least 1-3 per day of over 5 stuns, and at least every other day or so an 8 or 9 stuns

But these depend entirely on which Baal/Cerb that you have to fight - Weaker ones more,often than the more powerful ones

[AlDimeolaRules_7825391]

He is very easy to upgrade stars and you can usually get him sainted a lot easier that Cianna and at a tenth of the cost. I usually get multiple cards so I have 90-100% chance of upgrading him. (Over the past year that I have played anything less than 90% chance of success, is like 99% chance of failure - I have lost at least 5 leader cards w/90% chance of success across multiple servers, as well as probably 5000+ gems with the gem insurance just on the failures from "70-90%" chance of success. Good luck trying that with Cianna it takes a long time and tons of Credits just to get each Cianna card and usually you get about 8000-10000 from CW and it cost 5000 per card .

Downside is that Thuc has an upper limit (I think it is Angel 5 and can't go higher)

But stars cost less, and you have a way higher chance of success on your attempts with Thuc than with Cianna.

While he starts weaker and has a lower upper end, he can more quickly and easily exceed Cianna and stay that way while you spend a lot of time trying to upgrade her

Generally I only use these 2 toons in Cerb/Baal and then take them out for more useful characters.

A single stun attack against a single enemy like Baal/Cerb gains you as much as 4 additional attacks against the one.

But when having to fight 5 enemies the multi attacks of Adamanti, Rhize, Dawnbringer, Valla, Smoulder, etc. outweighs any "potential" stun chance.

[kaisim_2492829]

I have a standard set up for all my characters in Banish Baal/Cerb.

------- Cianna Shayd
------- Thucydides Weaker character
------- ----------- Strongest character

Substitution -> (where available second strongest character.

This is the basic strategy : Shayd attacks first one of 3 things happen a) miss, b) hit no stun, c) hit with stun
if a or b Cerb/Baal kills "weaker character"
if c weaker character gets an attack due to stun otherwise is killed and where applicable replaced by the substitute
Strongest character attacks next
Cianna attacks next (note I set Cianna with 100 morale) with chance of stun in case Shayd didn't stun
Thucydides attacks next (note I set him up with 75% morale so he doesn't have the stun attack till round 2)
Shayd gets second attack with chance of stun
Baal/Cerb if not stunned kills substitution or Thucydides
Strongest character attacks
Cianna attacks (stun possible depending on morale retention due to 6 sets)
Thucydides (if still alive) gets his stun chance on round 2 as his morale is at 100
Shayd attacks round 3 possible stun
Baal/Cerb if not stunned uses thousand strikes and kills all
Baal/Cerb if stunned doesn't attack
Strongest attacks etc. (where I have Bloodstorm he is in the "Strongest" with (100% morale to start) position and will in all cases get at least 2 skill attacks
then with each stun round he gets an additional attack

I get about 75% of the attack sequences at least one stun from the at least 1 of the three stunners making a critical hit
Usually 67% of the time 2 successful stuns
And my best was 13 stuns before the thousand strikes, and I usually get at least 1-3 per day of over 5 stuns, and at least every other day or so an 8 or 9 stuns

But these depend entirely on which Baal/Cerb that you have to fight - Weaker ones more,often than the more powerful ones

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ps: you should change your form....

[Andy]

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