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    Lightbulb A Sailing Idea to Stop the Passing of Maps

    Passing of the map to endlessly sink people on the sea is a form of bullying in my opinion. It's against the TOS (alts interaction) and it's freaking annoying, lol

    So here is an idea that would stop it in most cases. What would happen if you had to sail with the power that your ranking dictates? It only makes sense because when you want to sail, you want to cross. Why would you want to be any less powerful than you can be? The only reason the power down on the seas, would be to pass a map.

    Come on Tynon! Stop the bullies of the seas! If you aren't going to deal with the alts (which honestly would be too difficult), at least make it so they can't be used as easily. Please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyxHunter View Post
    Passing of the map to endlessly sink people on the sea is a form of bullying in my opinion. It's against the TOS (alts interaction) and it's freaking annoying, lol
    I've done it before, and it was fun. You don't need an alt to do this, you can have a friend in another realm/guild take maps from you. It isn't necessarily against the TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyxHunter View Post
    Passing of the map to endlessly sink people on the sea is a form of bullying in my opinion. It's against the TOS (alts interaction) and it's freaking annoying, lol

    So here is an idea that would stop it in most cases. What would happen if you had to sail with the power that your ranking dictates? It only makes sense because when you want to sail, you want to cross. Why would you want to be any less powerful than you can be? The only reason the power down on the seas, would be to pass a map.

    Come on Tynon! Stop the bullies of the seas! If you aren't going to deal with the alts (which honestly would be too difficult), at least make it so they can't be used as easily. Please?
    I would only be able to sail in a hybrid between my main and banish formation then... higher power doesn't really mean stronger. It would also be a huge pain to figure out which formation you are allowed to use when it's halfway between switches.

    Perhaps limit people to two sink/steals a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    I would only be able to sail in a hybrid between my main and banish formation then... higher power doesn't really mean stronger. It would also be a huge pain to figure out which formation you are allowed to use when it's halfway between switches.

    Perhaps limit people to two sink/steals a day?
    i think what he meant was that players have to sail with other players of similar power?
    only problem is that the top players would never sail, like i for example have double the power of our currently ranked #2 and then there is also the fact that between our #1 and our #12 (first page in ranking) are 400m power difference.
    also, i see powering down to loose maps to other players, provoke revenges, etc as a part of the tactics in this game and it would be just boring without it. that being said when your server advanced like ours, usually most players migrated into the same guild, have all the cities and nothing else to do. this is due to ucool neglecting this game and could be fixed by repopulating/merging the servers.
    that being said, i would like to point out that "bullies" in the game are inevitable since its a wargame and players worked hard (or paid a lot) to be dominant in the game and want to exercise that power. so the "bullies" are not really bullies but in most cases players who enjoy the game. they often picked enemies and are at war with them.
    i think the water part is working fine and as intended and priorities should be put on fixing the exploits and bugs that are currently going on so certain players dont have those unfair advantages anymore.




    EDIT PS: powering down to steal maps with your own alts is against the TOS and should be documented and reported via support
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    this is due to ucool neglecting this game and could be fixed by repopulating/merging the servers.
    priorities should be put on fixing the exploits and bugs that are currently going on so certain players dont have those unfair advantages anymore.
    I agree Kaisim & pirates does not have greatest of rewards to really warrant changing the system. Instead of getting 10 gems on Saturdays for sailing at the finish they give us 5 to sail and 5 to finish (plus buffs). There will be more lag time in-between updates/patches to allow players to narrow the gap of coiners/non-coiners.

    ..going slightly off subject, if Tynon were to open 2 servers in the same time zone on the same day, this would allow an opportunity for future server merges that would be more balanced and rejuvenate the game. Seasonal server merges should be a regular thing (:
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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    Perhaps limit people to two sink/steals a day?
    ^^ Probably the best the solution. It'll limit 'map swapping' but not take away all of the fun. To be honest the alt thing has gotten out of control. Yes it's expected as with all F2P MMO's but there should be some kind of penalty there to prevent this kind of bullying. I'm tired of seeing this happening and people complaining about it on the forum.

    It's only a game at the end of the day yet a small number of big players with a 'god complex' think it's ok to pick on a small one because of some minor offence to their 'delicate' disposition. Then call it 'part of the game'. It isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    ^^ Probably the best the solution. It'll limit 'map swapping' but not take away all of the fun.
    i beg to differ and if i may remind you that they increased the sails from 3 to 4 and daily maps to claim from 1 to 3, so the lower players get more chances to sail. maybe cutting it in half isnt the best solution but to maybe raise available maps to 5 and leave the sails at 4... let maps stack instead of exchanging them and/or let the players decide which map to choose to sail with... etc
    there is so many better solutions to this than limiting the game even further.... think expanding
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i beg to differ and if i may remind you that they increased the sails from 3 to 4 and daily maps to claim from 1 to 3, so the lower players get more chances to sail. maybe cutting it in half isnt the best solution but to maybe raise available maps to 5 and leave the sails at 4... let maps stack instead of exchanging them and/or let the players decide which map to choose to sail with... etc
    there is so many better solutions to this than limiting the game even further.... think expanding
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.

    Cutting it to two sink/steals a day is a viable solution. Stops the need for alts and the map swapping to sink others out of spite. If you think it's unfair than blame the multi accounters. They've started this and therefore we wouldn't have needed solutions to a problem we shouldn't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.

    Cutting it to two sink/steals a day is a viable solution. Stops the need for alts and the map swapping to sink others out of spite. If you think it's unfair than blame the multi accounters. They've started this and therefore we wouldn't have needed solutions to a problem we shouldn't have.
    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This ISSUE that some servers have is not because of alts. Its just one way to play this game. If the alts didnt exist there would be more people on a server and therefor the problem would happen with real players and not alts.

    The game is designed to sink and pass. its suppose to work this way. Just like banish and HR are deisigned to be pvp areas. Just because we as players dont like it doesnt mean it needs fixed

    The alts are not to blame, the game design and people being competitive and bored with lack of content are to blame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.
    wrong again, i pointed out that the free map count was raised from 1 to 3, meaning everyone gets 3 free maps per day. so the game is actually designed to make you steal/plunder a map to do your 4th sail or try to squeeze it out of a guild chest.
    therefore raising the free map count to 5 (1 of each 4 daily chests + 1 guild) would make it less interesting to steal maps.


    ps: the available points from the dailies chests where raised from 100 to 130 to compensate for players getting sunk and not being able to claim the missing points from sailing/GW/banish
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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