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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i beg to differ and if i may remind you that they increased the sails from 3 to 4 and daily maps to claim from 1 to 3, so the lower players get more chances to sail. maybe cutting it in half isnt the best solution but to maybe raise available maps to 5 and leave the sails at 4... let maps stack instead of exchanging them and/or let the players decide which map to choose to sail with... etc
    there is so many better solutions to this than limiting the game even further.... think expanding
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.

    Cutting it to two sink/steals a day is a viable solution. Stops the need for alts and the map swapping to sink others out of spite. If you think it's unfair than blame the multi accounters. They've started this and therefore we wouldn't have needed solutions to a problem we shouldn't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.

    Cutting it to two sink/steals a day is a viable solution. Stops the need for alts and the map swapping to sink others out of spite. If you think it's unfair than blame the multi accounters. They've started this and therefore we wouldn't have needed solutions to a problem we shouldn't have.
    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This ISSUE that some servers have is not because of alts. Its just one way to play this game. If the alts didnt exist there would be more people on a server and therefor the problem would happen with real players and not alts.

    The game is designed to sink and pass. its suppose to work this way. Just like banish and HR are deisigned to be pvp areas. Just because we as players dont like it doesnt mean it needs fixed

    The alts are not to blame, the game design and people being competitive and bored with lack of content are to blame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.
    wrong again, i pointed out that the free map count was raised from 1 to 3, meaning everyone gets 3 free maps per day. so the game is actually designed to make you steal/plunder a map to do your 4th sail or try to squeeze it out of a guild chest.
    therefore raising the free map count to 5 (1 of each 4 daily chests + 1 guild) would make it less interesting to steal maps.


    ps: the available points from the dailies chests where raised from 100 to 130 to compensate for players getting sunk and not being able to claim the missing points from sailing/GW/banish
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    wrong again, i pointed out that the free map count was raised from 1 to 3, meaning everyone gets 3 free maps per day. so the game is actually designed to make you steal/plunder a map to do your 4th sail or try to squeeze it out of a guild chest.
    therefore raising the free map count to 5 (1 of each 4 daily chests + 1 guild) would make it less interesting to steal maps.


    ps: the available points from the dailies chests where raised from 100 to 130 to compensate for players getting sunk and not being able to claim the missing points from sailing/GW/banish
    And its is. What I'm against is multiple map passing and sinking. You seem fixated on 4 sails a day and not to what myself and the OP is trying to explain. By limiting it to 2 sinks/steals you can still obtain your 4th map and redeem your other 3 maps throughout the day, can't you. If my math is correct that's 4 sails a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    The game is designed to sink and pass. its suppose to work this way. Just like banish and HR are deisigned to be pvp areas. Just because we as players dont like it doesnt mean it needs fixed

    The alts are not to blame, the game design and people being competitive and bored with lack of content are to blame
    No. You are supposed to sink then sail, not pass it to another player or alt. If you think alts aren't damaging the game you need to take a good long look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    And its is. What I'm against is multiple map passing and sinking. You seem fixated on 4 sails a day and not to what myself and the OP is trying to explain. By limiting it to 2 sinks/steals you can still obtain your 4th map and redeem your other 3 maps throughout the day, can't you. If my math is correct that's 4 sails a day.



    No. You are supposed to sink then sail, not pass it to another player or alt. If you think alts aren't damaging the game you need to take a good long look.
    ALts are not really damaging the game. Its a matter of perspective. They basically are speeding people up towards the glass ceiling thats all

    And lets look at how this works with out alts
    Player A and his guild is bullying a ghroup of players in some way
    Player A sails
    I sink them
    I power down give the map to someone in another guild who is being bullied by player a's guild
    This person then gets tha map stolen by a player in Player A's guild
    this person then sails
    I sink again

    Rinse wash repeat.

    Nothing wrong with that. Nothing against TOS in that. No alts involved. This isnt really an alt issue. yes the alts make it easier to do what I said. but the alts arent needed

    The alts are only there because:
    The game was poorly planned
    there is no new content in over 6 months
    alts are part of all F2P
    and because there is a lack of mergers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    The alts are only there because:
    The game was poorly planned
    there is no new content in over 6 months
    alts are part of all F2P
    and because there is a lack of mergers
    ... and that bully feels lonely and got no friends to sail with lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    ALts are not really damaging the game. Its a matter of perspective. They basically are speeding people up towards the glass ceiling thats all

    And lets look at how this works with out alts
    Player A and his guild is bullying a ghroup of players in some way
    Player A sails
    I sink them
    I power down give the map to someone in another guild who is being bullied by player a's guild
    This person then gets tha map stolen by a player in Player A's guild
    this person then sails
    I sink again

    Rinse wash repeat.

    Nothing wrong with that. Nothing against TOS in that. No alts involved. This isnt really an alt issue. yes the alts make it easier to do what I said. but the alts arent needed

    The alts are only there because:
    The game was poorly planned
    there is no new content in over 6 months
    alts are part of all F2P
    and because there is a lack of mergers
    This isn't an Utopian game, Matt.

    Alts are made to farm resources off, GWs and to retrieve/pass maps too. If you can't see the damage caused by alts then there is no point arguing with you. Yes they will occur in all F2P games but they need to also curbed.

    You might be a knight in shining armour but the vast majority don't notice or don't want their guild to be targeted too. Sorry not all servers are like server 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    This isn't an Utopian game, Matt.

    Alts are made to farm resources off, GWs and to retrieve/pass maps too. If you can't see the damage caused by alts then there is no point arguing with you. Yes they will occur in all F2P games but they need to also curbed.

    You might be a knight in shining armour but the vast majority don't notice or don't want their guild to be targeted too. Sorry not all servers are like server 1.
    Look I aint stupid, I know how many alts there ar eon the servers. same way evony was. alts dont bother me at all. They are not the reason anything happens in this game except hitting the glass ceiling faster. I know what you can do with alts. But the reason things happen is not BECAUSE of alts. Curbing them, doing away with them, or doing anything about it is not going to really change anything.

    People will find a way to annoy other people in any game where there is PvP with or without alts.

    But you are right not all servers can be server 1. There can only be one best and server 1 is the best

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    HEHE what is so funny is Nyxhunter and her guild is getting ganged up on because her husband has been trying to bully people. Now she cries, yet her husband is doing the same thing. Too Funny. I will have to network so I can get more people to snag my maps. Karma sucks Nyx.
    Last edited by schmiddy; 08-26-2014 at 11:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    You said yourself you get 1-3 free maps a day. There is no real need to sink anyone but it happens.

    Cutting it to two sink/steals a day is a viable solution. Stops the need for alts and the map swapping to sink others out of spite. If you think it's unfair than blame the multi accounters. They've started this and therefore we wouldn't have needed solutions to a problem we shouldn't have.
    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    wrong again, i pointed out that the free map count was raised from 1 to 3, meaning everyone gets 3 free maps per day. so the game is actually designed to make you steal/plunder a map to do your 4th sail or try to squeeze it out of a guild chest.
    therefore raising the free map count to 5 (1 of each 4 daily chests + 1 guild) would make it less interesting to steal maps.


    ps: the available points from the dailies chests where raised from 100 to 130 to compensate for players getting sunk and not being able to claim the missing points from sailing/GW/banish
    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    And its is. What I'm against is multiple map passing and sinking. You seem fixated on 4 sails a day and not to what myself and the OP is trying to explain. By limiting it to 2 sinks/steals you can still obtain your 4th map and redeem your other 3 maps throughout the day, can't you. If my math is correct that's 4 sails a day.



    No. You are supposed to sink then sail, not pass it to another player or alt. If you think alts aren't damaging the game you need to take a good long look.
    Yeah everyone has great ideas, only problem is in our server is the uber guild, who seem to think that actually claiming the free sails is a bad idea!
    So between the whole guild they can potentially sink 36 other sailors per day. Which they do seem to attempt!

    Which they then pass off to their alts, of which they have combined approximate total of
    83 alts over 5 alt guilds. (this is the number of alt guilds that we know of)

    All reported, with tickets, blah, blah blah.
    And the reply???
    It is all part of the game and you need to be prepared...TOS, more like B/S

    p.s I am a grand total of 3,158,698 in power, and am regularly sunk by somebody with OVER 900,000,000 in power....
    maybe I am a threat to them??? SMH
    Last edited by taniwha_8753299; 08-27-2014 at 11:07 AM.

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