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    Wait, what? Pvp fights are limited to 10?
    Morgan is spot on.
    Speaking of god complex...did u guys notice both examples of why passing maps is good was in the name of Justice...dealt out by only a few who decided what it should be.
    It's not a big issue on my main server. Someone did it for awhile, and got destroyed. It is, however, an issue. If one of our big dogs went rogue and started doing this...well, nobody would be safe. They don't, and most likely won't.
    Stating that alts are a norm in ftp...this is the first game that I've seen them in...at least like this...we had a player with 4 alt guilds. Not in our guild, on our server. I never got that. The time it took to run 4 other guilds...dude coulda got a job, coined, n saved time and money. Some people will step over a dollar to pick up a nickel. Others are so close-minded they can't see logic and reason.

    If you can't get your point across by sinking 4 ships/day, then you can't get your point across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandekop_693725 View Post
    Wait, what? Pvp fights are limited to 10?
    Morgan is spot on.
    Speaking of god complex...did u guys notice both examples of why passing maps is good was in the name of Justice...dealt out by only a few who decided what it should be.
    It's not a big issue on my main server. Someone did it for awhile, and got destroyed. It is, however, an issue. If one of our big dogs went rogue and started doing this...well, nobody would be safe. They don't, and most likely won't.
    Stating that alts are a norm in ftp...this is the first game that I've seen them in...at least like this...we had a player with 4 alt guilds. Not in our guild, on our server. I never got that. The time it took to run 4 other guilds...dude coulda got a job, coined, n saved time and money. Some people will step over a dollar to pick up a nickel. Others are so close-minded they can't see logic and reason.

    If you can't get your point across by sinking 4 ships/day, then you can't get your point across.
    Some people have seen that spending real money on a game as not a wise way to spend. Therefore they have supplemented by using alts. It is not a bad strategy, even if not allowed. I think part of the problem is the game doesn't provide enough to grow accts on without doing something and a lot of people just won't spend their life savings on it. Perhaps the greed Tynon has here for gems is in a funny way their own undoing.

    If they overregulate any more I would have to declare this game neither free nor a wargame. It would be an event game, very limited at that. I still think that robbing maps and sinking IS the intention of Tynon on Pirates, as stated in the instruction on the right side of the screen. therefore not against TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    Some people have seen that spending real money on a game as not a wise way to spend. Therefore they have supplemented by using alts. It is not a bad strategy, even if not allowed. I think part of the problem is the game doesn't provide enough to grow accts on without doing something and a lot of people just won't spend their life savings on it. Perhaps the greed Tynon has here for gems is in a funny way their own undoing.

    If they overregulate any more I would have to declare this game neither free nor a wargame. It would be an event game, very limited at that. I still think that robbing maps and sinking IS the intention of Tynon on Pirates, as stated in the instruction on the right side of the screen. therefore not against TOS.
    You don't go into a store and use a five fingered discount to get what you desire just because it's above your price range? No of course you don't because it'll be breaking the law and likely to see you end up in jail. Everyone knows you'll look pretty dumb if you tried to justify it to the arresting officer by going "Sir/Ma'am, I only stole it because I couldn't afford it and it isn't fair that others who can, have it.

    This excuse was used (poorly) in Evony and looked at what happened there. Saying that you need to 'suppliant' your game just because those who have the cash to sink into the game are both unwise (it's their choice where they spend their cash and certainly nothing to do with us) and causing a game imbalance is pretty dumb. If I'm honest the only imbalance is the ever increasing alts, it spoiled Evony and it's spoiling Tynon. I'm a realist so I am well aware there will be alts regardless, but justify them? Ummm no.

    Until uCool really look at ever increasing alts and alt guilds, it'll be a problem that is and will cause people to quit. No one likes a bully and worse a bully who cheats. Evony has a far smaller player base than it did a few years back because uCool turned a blind eye to the rampant bots and alts and allowed the bullies to terrorise the servers. Turning it into a dull, two-dimensional game instead of the team building thrill ride it was in 2009/10.

    I really can't do much about people who are naughty in game, I don't moderate the game only the forum. I'm hoping that uCool finally do something about it and put an end it to it, banning the worse offenders. It will set an example and prove uCool are serious about their ToS. As it stands most players consider it nothing more than a several paragraphs of nonsense, which it isn't.

    As for robbing and sinking in Pirates. Yes that was the intention to grab that map that's sailing or docked because it's the opposite to the one your guildie has for a sail. However, to be an ass about it and viciously repeatedly sink a player or guild because you don't like them isn't playing at war, it's digital terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post

    This excuse was used (poorly) in Evony and looked at what happened there. Saying that you need to 'suppliant' your game just because those who have the cash to sink into the game are both unwise (it's their choice where they spend their cash and certainly nothing to do with us) and causing a game imbalance is pretty dumb. If I'm honest the only imbalance is the ever increasing alts, it spoiled Evony and it's spoiling Tynon. I'm a realist so I am well aware there will be alts regardless, but justify them? Ummm no.

    Until uCool really look at ever increasing alts and alt guilds, it'll be a problem that is and will cause people to quit. No one likes a bully and worse a bully who cheats. Evony has a far smaller player base than it did a few years back because uCool turned a blind eye to the rampant bots and alts and allowed the bullies to terrorise the servers. Turning it into a dull, two-dimensional game instead of the team building thrill ride it was in 2009/10.

    I really can't do much about people who are naughty in game, I don't moderate the game only the forum. I'm hoping that uCool finally do something about it and put an end it to it, banning the worse offenders. It will set an example and prove uCool are serious about their ToS. As it stands most players consider it nothing more than a several paragraphs of nonsense, which it isn't.

    As for robbing and sinking in Pirates. Yes that was the intention to grab that map that's sailing or docked because it's the opposite to the one your guildie has for a sail. However, to be an ass about it and viciously repeatedly sink a player or guild because you don't like them isn't playing at war, it's digital terrorism.
    As true as it is I also feel that I would not be able to keep up in the game.. I assure you I am no alt abuser and do not have more than 2 alts while others have maybe 20 alts.. I simply can't manage all of them!
    You talk about how it has created an imbalance in the game, however, tynon WILL NOT stop this as people who have created alts have spent 'real money' on those alts. Not a lot, but they have used some of their hard earned cash. So, if tynon goes and punishes them for those alts they are at the same time punishing them for spending money on their game which in business is unethical form. So, they can punish those people but then at the same time give their money back to them. You also can't tell me that I was not allowed to create those alts as not everybody reads the TOS when they start the game but just tick the little box saying you agree and proceed, otherwise, I wouldn't have spent that money on them ... personally I haven't spent a coin in this game but I'm referring to others who I know have!
    As it remains an imbalance in the game and Tynon will continue to do nothing about it the only way to make the game more balanced is to start creating alts yourself.. remember Tynon WILL NOT do anything about this issue unless they return our money back to us!

    About the sinking of pirates, it's part of the game.. I get sunk all the time but I don't complain, instead, I use the time I would complain to go find another map.
    It wouldn'y be could Caribbean PIRATES if you couldn't sink somebody all the time. As that is kind of what pirates do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandekop_693725 View Post
    Speaking of god complex...did u guys notice both examples of why passing maps is good was in the name of Justice...dealt out by only a few who decided what it should be.
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    God complex... I think not. And for justice being handled by a few that decide what it is... wrong again as far as our server goes. It was a suggestion put out to all realms and all guilds to decide on. The overwhelming majority was yes we wanted no hitting once a ship set sail. I personally run 1 account with no alts and I have not coined a ton. I may cover accounts for guild members on vacation or working or help them beat a boss, whatever but that's neither here nor there. So yes, when we have a player or a guild go rogue, we join together to shut them down. Whoever sinks them passes the map to another guild. Most times I make 1 or 2 sails a day and give my other maps to small players. Sometimes having to work out relays because the player is too small to take it themselves. It's nice when everyone works together......

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesn8s69_4868706 View Post
    God complex... I think not. And for justice being handled by a few that decide what it is... wrong again as far as our server goes. It was a suggestion put out to all realms and all guilds to decide on. The overwhelming majority was yes we wanted no hitting once a ship set sail. I personally run 1 account with no alts and I have not coined a ton. I may cover accounts for guild members on vacation or working or help them beat a boss, whatever but that's neither here nor there. So yes, when we have a player or a guild go rogue, we join together to shut them down. Whoever sinks them passes the map to another guild. Most times I make 1 or 2 sails a day and give my other maps to small players. Sometimes having to work out relays because the player is too small to take it themselves. It's nice when everyone works together......
    Bob Loblaw. I think either you didn't read everything I posted, or didn't understand it. I'm going to explain it for you, but I will not understand it for you. Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. Now...don't read any further until you understand what I just wrote. Take your time...no need for an injury. Once you understand it...continue..

    Morgan is spot on.
    If you can't make your point with four sinks, then you can't make your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandekop_693725 View Post
    Bob Loblaw. I think either you didn't read everything I posted, or didn't understand it. I'm going to explain it for you, but I will not understand it for you. Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. Now...don't read any further until you understand what I just wrote. Take your time...no need for an injury. Once you understand it...continue..

    Morgan is spot on.
    If you can't make your point with four sinks, then you can't make your point.
    Maybe you should learn to read what's posted. If I had meant to cover your entire post I would have included it. I covered what I wanted to just to give a different point of view. But alas, when a server does something not according to YOUR game plan you start belittling and throwing insinuations that some one is not as bright as you. Sorry to burst you bubble but the world and the game does not revolve around you or your opinion and you know what they say about them. I'm glad our server works together to help smaller players enjoy the game......

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