A Sailing Idea to Stop the Passing of Maps

[Morgan le Fay]

Some people have seen that spending real money on a game as not a wise way to spend. Therefore they have supplemented by using alts. It is not a bad strategy, even if not allowed. I think part of the problem is the game doesn't provide enough to grow accts on without doing something and a lot of people just won't spend their life savings on it. Perhaps the greed Tynon has here for gems is in a funny way their own undoing.

If they overregulate any more I would have to declare this game neither free nor a wargame. It would be an event game, very limited at that. I still think that robbing maps and sinking IS the intention of Tynon on Pirates, as stated in the instruction on the right side of the screen. therefore not against TOS.

You don't go into a store and use a five fingered discount to get what you desire just because it's above your price range? No of course you don't because it'll be breaking the law and likely to see you end up in jail. Everyone knows you'll look pretty dumb if you tried to justify it to the arresting officer by going "Sir/Ma'am, I only stole it because I couldn't afford it and it isn't fair that others who can, have it.

This excuse was used (poorly) in Evony and looked at what happened there. Saying that you need to 'suppliant' your game just because those who have the cash to sink into the game are both unwise (it's their choice where they spend their cash and certainly nothing to do with us) and causing a game imbalance is pretty dumb. If I'm honest the only imbalance is the ever increasing alts, it spoiled Evony and it's spoiling Tynon. I'm a realist so I am well aware there will be alts regardless, but justify them? Ummm no.

Until uCool really look at ever increasing alts and alt guilds, it'll be a problem that is and will cause people to quit. No one likes a bully and worse a bully who cheats. Evony has a far smaller player base than it did a few years back because uCool turned a blind eye to the rampant bots and alts and allowed the bullies to terrorise the servers. Turning it into a dull, two-dimensional game instead of the team building thrill ride it was in 2009/10.

I really can't do much about people who are naughty in game, I don't moderate the game only the forum. I'm hoping that uCool finally do something about it and put an end it to it, banning the worse offenders. It will set an example and prove uCool are serious about their ToS. As it stands most players consider it nothing more than a several paragraphs of nonsense, which it isn't.

As for robbing and sinking in Pirates. Yes that was the intention to grab that map that's sailing or docked because it's the opposite to the one your guildie has for a sail. However, to be an ass about it and viciously repeatedly sink a player or guild because you don't like them isn't playing at war, it's digital terrorism.

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

This excuse was used (poorly) in Evony and looked at what happened there. Saying that you need to 'suppliant' your game just because those who have the cash to sink into the game are both unwise (it's their choice where they spend their cash and certainly nothing to do with us) and causing a game imbalance is pretty dumb. If I'm honest the only imbalance is the ever increasing alts, it spoiled Evony and it's spoiling Tynon. I'm a realist so I am well aware there will be alts regardless, but justify them? Ummm no.

Until uCool really look at ever increasing alts and alt guilds, it'll be a problem that is and will cause people to quit. No one likes a bully and worse a bully who cheats. Evony has a far smaller player base than it did a few years back because uCool turned a blind eye to the rampant bots and alts and allowed the bullies to terrorise the servers. Turning it into a dull, two-dimensional game instead of the team building thrill ride it was in 2009/10.

I really can't do much about people who are naughty in game, I don't moderate the game only the forum. I'm hoping that uCool finally do something about it and put an end it to it, banning the worse offenders. It will set an example and prove uCool are serious about their ToS. As it stands most players consider it nothing more than a several paragraphs of nonsense, which it isn't.

As for robbing and sinking in Pirates. Yes that was the intention to grab that map that's sailing or docked because it's the opposite to the one your guildie has for a sail. However, to be an ass about it and viciously repeatedly sink a player or guild because you don't like them isn't playing at war, it's digital terrorism.

As true as it is I also feel that I would not be able to keep up in the game.. I assure you I am no alt abuser and do not have more than 2 alts while others have maybe 20 alts.. I simply can't manage all of them!
You talk about how it has created an imbalance in the game, however, tynon WILL NOT stop this as people who have created alts have spent 'real money' on those alts. Not a lot, but they have used some of their hard earned cash. So, if tynon goes and punishes them for those alts they are at the same time punishing them for spending money on their game which in business is unethical form. So, they can punish those people but then at the same time give their money back to them. You also can't tell me that I was not allowed to create those alts as not everybody reads the TOS when they start the game but just tick the little box saying you agree and proceed, otherwise, I wouldn't have spent that money on them ... personally I haven't spent a coin in this game but I'm referring to others who I know have!
As it remains an imbalance in the game and Tynon will continue to do nothing about it the only way to make the game more balanced is to start creating alts yourself.. remember Tynon WILL NOT do anything about this issue unless they return our money back to us!

About the sinking of pirates, it's part of the game.. I get sunk all the time but I don't complain, instead, I use the time I would complain to go find another map.
It wouldn'y be could Caribbean PIRATES if you couldn't sink somebody all the time. As that is kind of what pirates do.

[dragon8paint_9471610]

Why not just add NPC pirates that people could get maps from instead of other players? We already have PVP in several areas and being that this a daily challenge why have it to where high level players prey on the weaker ones, just have it so that they go against NPC placers at the same power level.

[acesn8s69_4868706]

Speaking of god complex...did u guys notice both examples of why passing maps is good was in the name of Justice...dealt out by only a few who decided what it should be.
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God complex... I think not. And for justice being handled by a few that decide what it is... wrong again as far as our server goes. It was a suggestion put out to all realms and all guilds to decide on. The overwhelming majority was yes we wanted no hitting once a ship set sail. I personally run 1 account with no alts and I have not coined a ton. I may cover accounts for guild members on vacation or working or help them beat a boss, whatever but that's neither here nor there. So yes, when we have a player or a guild go rogue, we join together to shut them down. Whoever sinks them passes the map to another guild. Most times I make 1 or 2 sails a day and give my other maps to small players. Sometimes having to work out relays because the player is too small to take it themselves. It's nice when everyone works together......

[perawind_8762856]

I think that when starting sail, having the map rewards from that sail be randomly chosen instead of player chosen would make for a much more interesting pirate's mini game.

[MisChief]

Morgan, and everyone; I am not justifying alts. I was stating an opinion as to why they became so popular. It may well ruin Tynon, as bots did Evony. If the Dev's wanted this fixed why aren't they doing something? Because it's impossible, and to try and sort out what is an alt, a main, a noob vs a player that is just small that has little time or effort into the game is impossible, and using IP is not 100% sure or fair.

As far as pirates, we have people on our server that do that; sink - pass - sink - pass .. and it stinks!! As a strategy!!! I will not now, nor will I ever believe that sinking is against TOS. What can be done about them?? Not a lot, but to do it back, avoid their hours and other peer pressure tactics. Until the Dev's devise a way to adjust Pirates, it will continue. I don't like it ... I don't do it, but no admonishing of opinions here in forum will change my mind that it is against a rule. LOL You can even look at the names of alts, and guilds and identify people, they don't even hide it!!! Yet - nothing happens.

[vandekop_693725]

God complex... I think not. And for justice being handled by a few that decide what it is... wrong again as far as our server goes. It was a suggestion put out to all realms and all guilds to decide on. The overwhelming majority was yes we wanted no hitting once a ship set sail. I personally run 1 account with no alts and I have not coined a ton. I may cover accounts for guild members on vacation or working or help them beat a boss, whatever but that's neither here nor there. So yes, when we have a player or a guild go rogue, we join together to shut them down. Whoever sinks them passes the map to another guild. Most times I make 1 or 2 sails a day and give my other maps to small players. Sometimes having to work out relays because the player is too small to take it themselves. It's nice when everyone works together......

Bob Loblaw. I think either you didn't read everything I posted, or didn't understand it. I'm going to explain it for you, but I will not understand it for you. Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. Now...don't read any further until you understand what I just wrote. Take your time...no need for an injury. Once you understand it...continue..

Morgan is spot on.
If you can't make your point with four sinks, then you can't make your point.

[rafmeister_5440998]

Passing of the map to endlessly sink people on the sea is a form of bullying in my opinion. It's against the TOS (alts interaction) and it's freaking annoying, lol

So here is an idea that would stop it in most cases. What would happen if you had to sail with the power that your ranking dictates? It only makes sense because when you want to sail, you want to cross. Why would you want to be any less powerful than you can be? The only reason the power down on the seas, would be to pass a map.


Come on Tynon! Stop the bullies of the seas! If you aren't going to deal with the alts (which honestly would be too difficult), at least make it so they can't be used as easily. Please?

I made comments on this situation a year ago. Same guild still doing it with a couple of players creating an alt guild. blah, blah, blah

[acesn8s69_4868706]

Bob Loblaw. I think either you didn't read everything I posted, or didn't understand it. I'm going to explain it for you, but I will not understand it for you. Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. Now...don't read any further until you understand what I just wrote. Take your time...no need for an injury. Once you understand it...continue..

Morgan is spot on.
If you can't make your point with four sinks, then you can't make your point.

Maybe you should learn to read what's posted. If I had meant to cover your entire post I would have included it. I covered what I wanted to just to give a different point of view. But alas, when a server does something not according to YOUR game plan you start belittling and throwing insinuations that some one is not as bright as you. Sorry to burst you bubble but the world and the game does not revolve around you or your opinion and you know what they say about them. I'm glad our server works together to help smaller players enjoy the game......