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    Need Khan sainting advice

    Ok, so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan to fight Prophet Ezekiel, but I have a couple of questions regarding the saint results on Khan.

    1. How important are dodge and block saints on Khan to beating Ezekiel? (assuming I already have level 12 nimble & resist runs)

    2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

    Thanks to all in advance to whatever advice I may be given

    Edit: Small additional question. How many dodge & or block saints on Khan (in addition to the level 12 runes) do I need to be effective against Ezekiel?
    Last edited by perawind_8762856; 08-27-2014 at 11:56 PM.

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    No, No, No.

    Block and Dodge saints are nice to have on kahn to beat EZK, but not necessary and so I would not waste all that coins to transfer back and fourth.

    to beat him, what you need are level 12 runes and massive black smith armor with high life. It also applies to Queen P. Then load up your Damage hero Lance behind Queen P and you are set. No need to put a thing on Herja and all you need on Flav is minimal set to ensure he has good morale and decent stars (past 7) with decent runes.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perawind_8762856 View Post
    Ok, so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan to fight Prophet Ezekiel, but I have a couple of questions regarding the saint results on Khan.

    1. How important are dodge and block saints on Khan to beating Ezekiel? (assuming I already have level 12 nimble & resist runs)

    2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

    Thanks to all in advance to whatever advice I may be given

    Edit: Small additional question. How many dodge & or block saints on Khan (in addition to the level 12 runes) do I need to be effective against Ezekiel?
    first of all before i give my 2 cents:
    the stats you will transfer are randomized and you have no influence at all on them. meaning if you transfer a AA5 dawn then you will get a AA1 ezK with random sancts.
    that should have answered your following questions all at once, but if there is any doubt then any sancts are nice to have on khan, defensive and attack. if you decide to remove sancts then you should remove first sancts like not so usefull blue (but remember, mostly 2x blue = gold), magic resist and morale. any other especially crit and block are usefull.

    to your edit: i have a +14 block on my khan, the others are defense and a skill one.
    thing is, if you cant beat him now then your saints may help but will not be the relevant factor to tip the game unless you get something crazy like +75 resist and +90 crit or so...

    PS: i suggest to check the forum about ezk, there is some forms and other advice you can use and here is some more andy is doing a great job collecting them and keeping the index up to date
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    first of all before i give my 2 cents:
    the stats you will transfer are randomized and you have no influence at all on them. meaning if you transfer a AA5 dawn then you will get a AA1 ezK with random sancts.
    that should have answered your following questions all at once, but if there is any doubt then any sancts are nice to have on khan, defensive and attack. if you decide to remove sancts then you should remove first sancts like not so usefull blue (but remember, mostly 2x blue = gold), magic resist and morale. any other especially crit and block are usefull.

    to your edit: i have a +14 block on my khan, the others are defense and a skill one.
    thing is, if you cant beat him now then your saints may help but will not be the relevant factor to tip the game unless you get something crazy like +75 resist and +90 crit or so...

    PS: i suggest to check the forum about ezk, there is some forms and other advice you can use and here is some more andy is doing a great job collecting them and keeping the index up to date
    The point is, he could choose to redo them. Might be a good idea depending on the saints. Not just for block, dodge, and crit, but also for more gold depending on what he gets.

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    That would mean he would actually have to read the op's question instead of just giving his "two cents" as he usually does.

    I wouldn't want to throw that many cards out there to have to do it again from what could be considered bad saints. Just hope for the best and take what you can get. as Riot said they're not absolute. they just add a nice bonus.

    I like the name Zeks as well, gonna try to coin it

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    The point is, he could choose to redo them. Might be a good idea depending on the saints. Not just for block, dodge, and crit, but also for more gold depending on what he gets.
    he is not thinking about re-doing them, he is talking about his first transfer to khan so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan. so its you who hasnt read the OP...

    @flandre stop cyberstalking me and talking non-sense in any post you can find where someone is disagreeing with something. you dont look smart doing it, are off-topic and no helpfull influence at all. i am not sure what i have done to you in the past but i can ensure you it was nothing personal and must have been something incredibly ... well know lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    he is not thinking about re-doing them, he is talking about his first transfer to khan so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan. so its you who hasnt read the OP...
    Quote Originally Posted by perawind_8762856 View Post

    2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?
    He's thinking about transferring back and forth until he gets the saints he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    He's thinking about transferring back and forth until he gets the saints he wants.
    This ^
    To the op, obviously the more crit/dodge/block saints the merrier, but I think having a couple all around should serve well enough for ezk. +75 in saints is unreasonable and unnecessary. If I got some in my first transfer, I probably wouldn't transfer back, but that's just me. I'm too poor to afford multiple transfers.

    What you lack in saints is made up for in bs like riot said, but since you cant bs block/crit/dodge those are helpful to have.

    I have a friend that just did his first transfer to khan and got like 6 mag def saints, and it kinda sucks. I'm still sainting my dawn for khan. Basically khan is a large investment for HR/quests/RC, so whatever you stick with make sure it works well (as im sure you know)
    my naga, my naga

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    He's thinking about transferring back and forth until he gets the saints he wants.
    no you are only reading what you want to read and take things out of context like a couple others here on the forum. before you join the bandwagon and make a fool out of yourself, he said:
    Quote Originally Posted by perawind_8762856 View Post
    Ok, so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan to fight Prophet Ezekiel, but I have a couple of questions regarding the saint results on Khan.

    1. How important are dodge and block saints on Khan to beating Ezekiel? (assuming I already have level 12 nimble & resist runs)

    2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

    Thanks to all in advance to whatever advice I may be given

    Edit: Small additional question. How many dodge & or block saints on Khan (in addition to the level 12 runes) do I need to be effective against Ezekiel?
    so he is planning on transfering and asking about transfering back and forth until he gets what he wants if it doesnt go his way


    ... now back to the OP original questions, we all know that saints are usefull and can help a lot. kudos to jkwong for mentioning he is important in HR and quests even tho i believe that when he is at the point to tackle ezK he will most likely already have completed HR and quests or is at least close to doing so. if not then i suggest to complete your judgement sets first, add a couple sirius and then try again. it will make a huge difference, much bigger than what you can get from your saints.
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 08-28-2014 at 09:23 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i believe that when he is at the point to tackle ezK he will most likely already have completed HR and quests or is at least close to doing so. if not then i suggest to complete your judgement sets first, add a couple sirius and then try again. it will make a huge difference, much bigger than what you can get from your saints.
    beating ezek has no relation to finishing HR or quest in the slightest
    i beat ezek about a month ago, and he was a doddle compared to 2nd malme quest boss, which i still cant beat

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