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    Quote Originally Posted by JezebelMD_6540395 View Post
    When the UA came into the game almost everyone complained because it became harder to 'fix' the Palace every weekend. Yet, now most are complaining because high level players are 'fixing' the outcome of CWF for what everyone assumes is the very same reason. The tickets everyone gets are free, whether you pick the winner or the looser. And, throwing a match in the CWF is no different than 'fixing' the Palace - it gives lower levels more goodies. At least in mho.
    On S104 we have found ways to re-manipulate the heavens palace, we just need to work as a team with other guilds from other realms and often it works perfectly except for one or two people that didn't power down properly.

    However, regarding CW I understand perfectly the problem that everyone has with people powering down. To be quite honest, I don't care about it and I don't think that I could care any less. If this is what Tynon want to do with their game then so be it. We are here to play and have a good time. If what Tynon has done with it annoys you to too much of an extent where you have to come and complain and complain about on the forums, I honestly see pointless, a waste of your time, and a waste of everyone else's time. People may not agree with what Tynon has done with their game and how it has been structured to make 'certain' people happy (the spenders). Without making the spenders happy, Tynon can't fund their game whatsoever, so, therefore we will have no game to play. If complaining is all that you people have time to do just because a GAME does not meet your standards or your expectations, then you will save your time, Tynon's time, and everyone else's time by going and spending your money elsewhere.
    You can complain as much as you like but after how many cwf's, I think 22, Tynon has kept cwf exactly the same. I have very high doubts that Tynon are going to make changes to it now, at this stage. Honestly, at this stage, I don't think Tynon could care much what people have to complain about, but instead to only focus on their top priorities such as new content, new bosses to fight, and new heroes in Royal Arena to fight. Until that is done, Tynon may come and see what the majority of us have been complaining so long about it, but still my doubts are very high that they will change something that has generated themselves so much money after the last 9 months.

    Getting your hopes high is good, however, getting them too high leads to a lot of disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    On S104 we have found ways to re-manipulate the heavens palace, we just need to work as a team with other guilds from other realms and often it works perfectly except for one or two people that didn't power down properly.

    However, regarding CW I understand perfectly the problem that everyone has with people powering down. To be quite honest, I don't care about it and I don't think that I could care any less. If this is what Tynon want to do with their game then so be it. We are here to play and have a good time. If what Tynon has done with it annoys you to too much of an extent where you have to come and complain and complain about on the forums, I honestly see pointless, a waste of your time, and a waste of everyone else's time. People may not agree with what Tynon has done with their game and how it has been structured to make 'certain' people happy (the spenders). Without making the spenders happy, Tynon can't fund their game whatsoever, so, therefore we will have no game to play. If complaining is all that you people have time to do just because a GAME does not meet your standards or your expectations, then you will save your time, Tynon's time, and everyone else's time by going and spending your money elsewhere.
    You can complain as much as you like but after how many cwf's, I think 22, Tynon has kept cwf exactly the same. I have very high doubts that Tynon are going to make changes to it now, at this stage. Honestly, at this stage, I don't think Tynon could care much what people have to complain about, but instead to only focus on their top priorities such as new content, new bosses to fight, and new heroes in Royal Arena to fight. Until that is done, Tynon may come and see what the majority of us have been complaining so long about it, but still my doubts are very high that they will change something that has generated themselves so much money after the last 9 months.

    Getting your hopes high is good, however, getting them too high leads to a lot of disappointment.
    I think you misunderstood me. I did not say anywhere that I was happy with how the game is going. I agree with most of the posts here, and I'm actively looking for another game to play - might have found it, actually. But, to me there is very little difference between throwing a CWF match and fixing the Palace. Both accomplish the same thing - more goodies for those on your server. And, I'm not against fixing the Palace - we strive to do it every week on our server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JezebelMD_6540395 View Post
    And, I'm not against fixing the Palace - we strive to do it every week on our server.
    i think the HP belongs into an entirely different topic. one topic is about CW and about exploiting it, to "make the rich richer" and their friends, guilds and whoever figured it out with it.
    HP is more about helping the weaker players of the entire server (= everyone). to let all players being able to finish HP as an event in an already flawed system.
    i dont think they both should be compared to each other, especially since in one you get 10 random rewards and in the other you can choose what you like for yourself, alts and whoever knew about how you that person(s) is/are planning to exploit the system

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    after re-reading it i can guess how they will try to stab at this and like to specify:
    on our server i am the leading player right now, along with me are 5 others and after that for a loooong time nothing. if i power down for HP i will get the same random rewards i have no influence at all on and no one else from our server got any influence on it at all. and except for insignificant coin/credit rewards there is nothing i would be able to sell to an alt (or farm from it) if i/we had any. yet, we still power down to HELP others
    ifiu was to gain 200m power over night and had a fair shot at the top 4 of CW then i would be able to give to myself (and any alts), guild members and friends an unfair advantage over anyone else on the server.
    you on the other hand powered down to screw others
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 09-01-2014 at 04:34 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    EDIT:
    after re-reading it i can guess how they will try to stab at this and like to specify:
    on our server i am the leading player right now, along with me are 5 others and after that for a loooong time nothing. if i power down for HP i will get the same random rewards i have no influence at all on and no one else from our server got any influence on it at all. and except for insignificant coin/credit rewards there is nothing i would be able to sell to an alt (or farm from it) if i/we had any. yet, we still power down to HELP others
    ifiu was to gain 200m power over night and had a fair shot at the top 4 of CW then i would be able to give to myself (and any alts), guild members and friends an unfair advantage over anyone else on the server.
    you on the other hand powered down to screw others


    Now I do agree that Palace and CW are different topics all together, but I still can't help notice the irony of your words. So as long as its to "help" the server its okay to power down to make palace easier; which by the way is an exploit by your definiton. If you're going to hold a high standard for whats morally right or wrong that means you cant pick and choose where the line is crossed.
    hint: its called hypocrisy...

    "you can dress it up as like and call it strategy or might as well put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig." was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlandreScarlet_7896971 View Post
    Now I do agree that Palace and CW are different topics all together, but I still can't help notice the irony of your words. So as long as its to "help" the server its okay to power down to make palace easier; which by the way is an exploit by your definiton. If you're going to hold a high standard for whats morally right or wrong that means you cant pick and choose where the line is crossed.
    hint: its called hypocrisy...

    "you can dress it up as like and call it strategy or might as well put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig." was it?
    of course you dont understand it, but thats ok!
    for you.
    the only thing that i personally dont understand is that when you never get anything right, crossread, quote passages that seem to compliment your flaming but continue to quote and read things out of context only ... why do you you even bother posting?


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    ps assuming you are not off topic and just for entertainment purposes because i love to hear your pointless flaming going on and making a complete fool out of yourself:
    how exactly would i have
    a) a motive to exploit the palace being the only one able to finish it if we dont power down
    b) my unfair advantage of powering down over not powering down (while i am the only one able to complete gold, crystal AND rune palace!)
    c) assuming you being on my server not being able to profit from the top 10 players powering down
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 09-01-2014 at 07:42 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    of course you dont understand it, but thats ok!
    for you.
    the only thing that i personally dont understand is that when you never get anything right, crossread, quote passages that seem to compliment your flaming but continue to quote and read things out of context only ... why do you you even bother posting?
    Have you ever asked yourself the same question, or is your head that far up your *** that you can't see anything anymore.
    You think you're so high and mighty but fail to see that you contradict yourself more than you will ever admit. But That's OK!
    I don't expect you to understand. Live in your little "I"m always right" bubble and as you tell so many others, I"m sure there's some drugs out there that can fix ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlandreScarlet_7896971 View Post
    Have you ever asked yourself the same question, or is your head that far up your *** that you can't see anything anymore.
    You think you're so high and mighty but fail to see that you contradict yourself more than you will ever admit. But That's OK!
    I don't expect you to understand. Live in your little "I"m always right" bubble and as you tell so many others, I"m sure there's some drugs out there that can fix ya
    i dont need to ask myself those questions and you have not answered a single questions to fortify your own argument. you did well that you didnt because you know for yourself that your posts are pointless. you also know that your posts are only to troll and flame and waste everyone else's time. you are off topic and didnt make a single valid point in any of the arguments and insults that you started since months. what a shame, petty for you kid.

    good bye
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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