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    Quote Originally Posted by She_alt2_8477628 View Post
    Our guild put 3 players into the top 64 final players. We are the top guild in our realm, and we have team players on our team, that is why we are so strong, and we will be back. See we put a player into the finals of CWars, not because this player is selfish, but because they are a real team player. 4th, What do we care about the other guilds outside of our realm, we did not do anything except not get YOU some tickets.
    *Sighing and rolling my eyes at the rant then trimming it shorter for clarity's sake*

    1st Whoopty Do!

    2nd Aye it is selfish, but selfish on a grand scale where a few elitist think it's ok for them to screw folks over not only on their server, but peeps on every server (except the few elitists in the know on other servers (not calling anyone who figured it out on the fly an elitist btw) such as the ones that threw it to start with to allow the final players to manipulate the outcome.)

    3rd it's obvious you do not care but we certainly should since well that's Section 1.8 Part a. Engage in any act that uCool deems to be in conflict with the spirit or intent of the Service, including but not limited to circumventing or _manipulating_ these Terms, our game rules, _game_mechanics_ or policies and here is where many of you are gonna disagree and to that I say bring it on!

    *Taking a boxing stance paws at the ready*

    But disagree all you like, this will be interesting for I quote under Rules Related to Game Play "Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players". Just to make sure we all read that right, key words here are "or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players".

    Now I really suspect this phenomena falls under the "Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented". Obviously this was most likely not in the dev team's intentions and it certainly wasn't documented properly if such an easy manipulation is possible. So this does indeed make the situation an exploitation of the feature to give an uneven advantage over others to a certain few.

    But I'm a simple beast and prefer simple terms, so instead of exploitation why not call this what it simply is a cheat...

    After all a cheat by any other name is still a cheat

    Speaking of that @ Kaisim, I would have found that lil nugget freaking side splitting except for the fact it is so pathetic. What probably happened here is some genius thought they were on their main account, but actually was on one of their alt accounts (they have at least two made obvious by the email address) when they replied.

    What amuses me is these "players" think they are so clever and skilled that the rest of us aren't completely aware and notice these gaffs ALL THE TIME.

    What saddens me is it is just another example of one of the main fractures in Tynon's structure and just how out of hand the alt situation has gotten...

    Oh and finally @ the PTB isn't that Section 1.6 Part c. You shall not have more than one Account at any given time, and shall not create an account using a false identity or information, or on behalf of someone other than yourself? Just asking for clarity's sake so that I properly understand the ToS...

    *Wandering away chuckling for it was very kind of ucool to link me to their ToS since I have learned many interesting things there*
    Last edited by lord_hunter_wolf_2945473; 09-03-2014 at 11:43 AM.
    It's not exploitation, it's a FEATURE!

    In the circle of life you are either predator or prey. Of course which you are is entirely up to you.

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    Well after careful consideration the most reasonable fix for this latest exploitation seems to be one that has been touched on mostly already to some degree...

    Contenders get two minutes before the battle to set their forms before they are locked in (BTW I agree with you all who say they enjoy the strat behind creating forms to fight other players, that aspect shouldn't be lost.) and then the bettors have two minutes to refresh and view the forms of the contenders.

    Aye this would make it 5 minutes per battle since 1 minute to set and 1 minute to bet is just too short considering many of us are doing other events at the same time. As was pointed out earlier this would turn the event into a full week long experience which isn't really a bad thing.

    So between blind winner's rewards and more time for the bettors to have an reasonable chance to make an informed bet, the exploitation may not be completely eradicated, but it will be significantly reduced.

    The next round of CW is soon to start and one does hope it will not be the utter fiasco the last one was...
    Last edited by lord_hunter_wolf_2945473; 09-07-2014 at 10:19 PM.
    It's not exploitation, it's a FEATURE!

    In the circle of life you are either predator or prey. Of course which you are is entirely up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_hunter_wolf_2945473 View Post
    Well after careful consideration the most reasonable fix for this latest exploitation seems to be one that has been touched on mostly already to some degree...

    Contenders get two minutes before the battle to set their forms before they are locked in (BTW I agree with you all who say they enjoy the strat behind creating forms to fight other players, that aspect shouldn't be lost.) and then the bettors have two minutes to refresh and view the forms of the contenders.

    Aye this would make it 5 minutes per battle since 1 minute to set and 1 minute to bet is just too short considering many of us are doing other events at the same time. As was pointed out earlier this would turn the event into a full week long experience which isn't really a bad thing.

    So between blind winner's rewards and more time for the bettors to have an reasonable chance to make an informed bet, the exploitation may not be completely eradicated, but it will be significantly reduced.

    The next round of CW is soon to start and one does hope it will not be the utter fiasco the last one was...
    i dont understand how this would fix the problem...
    we already dont have enough time to watch the first 2 rounds of the replay before the auto replay kicks in, not enough space to switch heroes with gear and runes AND switch them out of the inn first.

    IMHO the only thing that could "fix" this would be to drop the bets all together and scale significantly improved instant rewards throughout the tournament as challengers progress.
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 09-08-2014 at 07:01 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    I predict a lot of fights being thrown and manipulated for the players who compete at the top levels.

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    then why dont you all just remove all heros strip main toon of equipment and runes and fall from grace sooner and let the mid level players take better spots

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartyTime View Post
    then why dont you all just remove all heros strip main toon of equipment and runes and fall from grace sooner and let the mid level players take better spots
    You'd still want the tickets you earn from making it to the third day, lookin for the chips after all and at least with tickets you can pick what you want.

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    Same group in finals - who will throw what?? Can we get a head's up for betting please? Pretend I'm in your guild and want to max my tickets.

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    hello where i can leav a massage about CW ??

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    Old thread should be closed.

    @afshin you can leave a msg about CW here: http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?7821-Cwf-nov-4-8

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