Seeing that betting is currently my current best way of improving my stars, especially purple stars, I am against that.
I didn't mean that somebody would have to COMPLETELY sit out the whole tournament and get nothing.
I don't know if you have noticed but if you don't sign up for cwf you won't fight the whole tournament, however, when comes knockout stages you are still able to bet.
you cant have it all david, there has to be sacrifices made at some point. you cant restructure the CW for just a few and leave it conveniently for the others as is.
your "sitting out" is not a good solution either, thats what the crowns are intended for in the first place, so not so many win too many tournaments. dont forget that the ones complaining about it most is the ones who are throwing the fights. so, as long as they can use "not wanting 2x lv8 chips but getting the same tickets" as an excuse to not win, then thats to me an indicator that the gaps between the top 8 finishers need to be increased in a way that it hurts to not win.
also if the rewards are significantly raised its fine since you wont see anything from it in the first place for a long time. the CW was never intended as a tool to let others catch up anyways. this way you would get better rewards for the games you do win and have an intensive to move within the tournament as far as possible.
Betting is only your best way of getting tickets because more tickets are given for later rounds. If you replace them with fights, they would still scale up the same.
People would still throw fights to not get into the finals with your idea. Since you get the full amount you would have won by betting from losing a fight, it is advantageous to not have to sit out and bet.
Before I say my opinion try to keep the comments clean here guys. I know plenty of you are miffed but I don't want to see words that turns my milkshake sour.
The whole point of the handicap was to try and prevent the same players winning CWF all the time. If you don't like it-good!
As for exploits. When Yue dropped that CWF, it was done with the intention of allowing his guildie win some nice rewards and therefore done out of kindness. However, you and Fleur are doing it to prevent yourselves accruing crowns/handicaps. Manipulating the mechanics for your own ends is exploiting. Now even though this is exploiting it's down to uCool to decide whether this behaviour is violating their ToS or not. That, I'm afraid guys is out of our hands.
I don't think this excuse is washing with most now. That said it doesn't stop you being in the top two and gaining the best winnings though.
It's a saga all right. That said I'm sure Tynon do know about it if nothing else many angry CS tickets have been filed.
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I have to respectfully disagree.
So what you are saying is Yue dropped and intentionally lost CWF to help others so it is ok, and Fluer and I did not intent to help anyone so it is an exploit?
This makes no sense and it is contradictory statement.
Here is the fact for the simple minded folks.
A person has the right to play the game as they see fit within the mechanics of the game (PERIOD). If the game allows them to change up the formation so they lose or win, then it is allowed and it is not an exploit. If a person uses a Maria that was bugged and not intended to be in the game but uses it in CWF, that is an exploit. Notice the two difference?
If a person wishes to throw a fight because they have crap chip, it is their choice. On the flip side, if a person chooses to lose rounds because he wants to in your words "help other people" earn more chips without having to guess who will win the next 5 rounds, then that is also a choice.
At the end the results were the same for the two champions in the finals.
I am sure there are those out there who won tickets because it was obvious to them are thankful, they do not have to "guess" or take chances on who will win. Which may have yielded less tickets at the end.
Notice there are around 17x betting the other direction during the fight? Those are probably who own multiple alts who are betting on both ends "just incase".
This game is full of possibilities and loop holes. To ask the DEV to punish someone for playing the game within the mechanics allows is ridiculous and will be laughed at. If the DEV team wants to fix that, then they can do a lot of things to not allow for these changes. But it is obviously clear, they do not have any intention of limiting how a person plays the game.
Another "bad idea" The only sin is allowing this topic to even be discussed in such a manner and by a moderator at that.
Who was that, your two alts?
ROFL
Last edited by Morgan le Fay; 09-14-2014 at 05:19 PM. Reason: Double post
I never said it wasn't. However, what I was pointing out was the ethics.
Intentionally manipulating the mechanics to suit oneself is in the game world is an exploit. I'm not going to dress this up nicely for y'all benefits. The difference here is if uCool decides it goes against their ToS. An exploit can be either 'legal' or 'illegal' depending on the game company's view.
The whole point of CWF is to find the best and strongest, not have it manipulated to suit one or two players ends. This is what folk are most are annoyed at.
Regarding the chips, you know what? Big deal! Most of the player base would chew their right arm off to have a level 7+ chip so regularly. Instead of being so snotty about what colour chip you are awarded, be proud of achieving what most aspire to.
And FYI, you can't 'play how you choose', there are rules. Lets not dismiss the ToS and that applies to everyone no matter how much you spend.
Haven't you read the comments? It's not about the tickets or betting it's about putting the whole of CWF into disrepute.
I will agree there are far too many loop holes than I would like. Maybe instead of complaining about them stop adding to them.
You are dismissing it because it'll stop you doing what you want. If players didn't 'fix' matches, they'll be no need for suggestions you dislike.
Oh. Don't make slight remarks like that, it won't end well for you. That's a yellow card.
Last edited by Morgan le Fay; 09-14-2014 at 05:49 PM.
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i had missed this part in all your verbal diarrhea and like to respond to it directly:
i know the difference but you obviously dont. let me explain it to you, so someone with your intellectual superiority will understand. in your above example:
player A is exploiting the in-game mechanics while player B is cheating by exploiting a bug.
you are talking about two different things. you are either not realizing that or obliterate to your own excuses that your wishful thinking turns into your personal reality.
EDIT:
i would always try to win every single match and for the same reason i suggested to have a counter for the won and lost games and base the total of tickets on that instead of a betting system to give the CW more integrity and make losers like you either take the crown or the same bad rewards as everyone else does who didnt make it into the top 8.
ps: and yes you are defending yourself and if may add, you are doing a really bad job doing so. i'd suggest to better shush or you will drag yourself even further down the gutter