I don't like the idea of people having to sit out. This will just lead to people throwing fight in order to not get into finals.Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
They should simply let everyone fight each round and get rid of betting. Then I wouldn't care who throws which fight.
Seeing that betting is currently my current best way of improving my stars, especially purple stars, I am against that.
I didn't mean that somebody would have to COMPLETELY sit out the whole tournament and get nothing.
I don't know if you have noticed but if you don't sign up for cwf you won't fight the whole tournament, however, when comes knockout stages you are still able to bet.
Shut up about the exploits unless you can prove they are telling their guild mates about what they are doing. If they aren't, they are not exploiting anything, they just are using crappy formations that have no hope of winning (nothing says they have to try (well except maybe you guys who are pissed about it)).
If you guys think they should still ban them for this, then tynon should ban EVERYONE who has ever powered down to make Heaven's Palace easier to complete.
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Before I say my opinion try to keep the comments clean here guys. I know plenty of you are miffed but I don't want to see words that turns my milkshake sour.
The whole point of the handicap was to try and prevent the same players winning CWF all the time. If you don't like it-good!
As for exploits. When Yue dropped that CWF, it was done with the intention of allowing his guildie win some nice rewards and therefore done out of kindness. However, you and Fleur are doing it to prevent yourselves accruing crowns/handicaps. Manipulating the mechanics for your own ends is exploiting. Now even though this is exploiting it's down to uCool to decide whether this behaviour is violating their ToS or not. That, I'm afraid guys is out of our hands.
I don't think this excuse is washing with most now. That said it doesn't stop you being in the top two and gaining the best winnings though.
It's a saga all right. That said I'm sure Tynon do know about it if nothing else many angry CS tickets have been filed.the saga continueswont help any as long as the devs abandon the forums
Forum Moderators are volunteers and are unable to fix in game problems
you cant have it all david, there has to be sacrifices made at some point. you cant restructure the CW for just a few and leave it conveniently for the others as is.
your "sitting out" is not a good solution either, thats what the crowns are intended for in the first place, so not so many win too many tournaments. dont forget that the ones complaining about it most is the ones who are throwing the fights. so, as long as they can use "not wanting 2x lv8 chips but getting the same tickets" as an excuse to not win, then thats to me an indicator that the gaps between the top 8 finishers need to be increased in a way that it hurts to not win.
also if the rewards are significantly raised its fine since you wont see anything from it in the first place for a long time. the CW was never intended as a tool to let others catch up anyways. this way you would get better rewards for the games you do win and have an intensive to move within the tournament as far as possible.
Betting is only your best way of getting tickets because more tickets are given for later rounds. If you replace them with fights, they would still scale up the same.
People would still throw fights to not get into the finals with your idea. Since you get the full amount you would have won by betting from losing a fight, it is advantageous to not have to sit out and bet.
A possible solution is if match fixing has taken place then the person/s responsible have to spend the next CWF in the 'sin bin'. Might be a big enough deterrent.
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so far on 92 two players have quit based on last nights "fixing" of matches and said good bye to us. i cant say names on the forum but one of them was a VIP9.
I have to respectfully disagree.
So what you are saying is Yue dropped and intentionally lost CWF to help others so it is ok, and Fluer and I did not intent to help anyone so it is an exploit?
This makes no sense and it is contradictory statement.
Here is the fact for the simple minded folks.
A person has the right to play the game as they see fit within the mechanics of the game (PERIOD). If the game allows them to change up the formation so they lose or win, then it is allowed and it is not an exploit. If a person uses a Maria that was bugged and not intended to be in the game but uses it in CWF, that is an exploit. Notice the two difference?
If a person wishes to throw a fight because they have crap chip, it is their choice. On the flip side, if a person chooses to lose rounds because he wants to in your words "help other people" earn more chips without having to guess who will win the next 5 rounds, then that is also a choice.
At the end the results were the same for the two champions in the finals.
I am sure there are those out there who won tickets because it was obvious to them are thankful, they do not have to "guess" or take chances on who will win. Which may have yielded less tickets at the end.
Notice there are around 17x betting the other direction during the fight? Those are probably who own multiple alts who are betting on both ends "just incase".
This game is full of possibilities and loop holes. To ask the DEV to punish someone for playing the game within the mechanics allows is ridiculous and will be laughed at. If the DEV team wants to fix that, then they can do a lot of things to not allow for these changes. But it is obviously clear, they do not have any intention of limiting how a person plays the game.
Another "bad idea" The only sin is allowing this topic to even be discussed in such a manner and by a moderator at that.
so far on 92 two players have quit based on last nights "fixing" of matches and said good bye to us. i cant say names on the forum but one of them was a VIP9.
Who was that, your two alts?
ROFL
Last edited by Morgan le Fay; 09-14-2014 at 05:19 PM. Reason: Double post
A VIP9 you say? Wow okso far on 92 two players have quit based on last nights "fixing" of matches and said good bye to us. i cant say names on the forum but one of them was a VIP9.
I have come across three vip 8's in my time here but never vip9
This is unfortunately the unfortunate thing. If only tynon would do something and have one of their reps give us a poll system to vote on here on the forums to fix something at their choosing maybe, just maybe we wouldn't see so many people leaving and also if Tynon didn't procrastinate about everything they did in developing the game.
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