The most interesting CW yet

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

Who was that, your two alts?

ROFL

A vip9 alt?
That will make my day Especially to the one person who is so determined to get rid of alts in this game

[kaisim_2492829]

I have to respectfully disagree.

So what you are saying is Yue dropped and intentionally lost CWF to help others so it is ok, and Fluer and I did not intent to help anyone so it is an exploit?

This makes no sense and it is contradictory statement.

Here is the fact for the simple minded folks.

A person has the right to play the game as they see fit within the mechanics of the game (PERIOD). If the game allows them to change up the formation so they lose or win, then it is allowed and it is not an exploit. If a person uses a Maria that was bugged and not intended to be in the game but uses it in CWF, that is an exploit. Notice the two difference?

If a person wishes to throw a fight because they have crap chip, it is their choice. On the flip side, if a person chooses to lose rounds because he wants to in your words "help other people" earn more chips without having to guess who will win the next 5 rounds, then that is also a choice.

At the end the results were the same for the two champions in the finals.

I am sure there are those out there who won tickets because it was obvious to them are thankful, they do not have to "guess" or take chances on who will win. Which may have yielded less tickets at the end.

Notice there are around 17x betting the other direction during the fight? Those are probably who own multiple alts who are betting on both ends "just incase".

This game is full of possibilities and loop holes. To ask the DEV to punish someone for playing the game within the mechanics allows is ridiculous and will be laughed at. If the DEV team wants to fix that, then they can do a lot of things to not allow for these changes. But it is obviously clear, they do not have any intention of limiting how a person plays the game.



Another "bad idea" The only sin is allowing this topic to even be discussed in such a manner and by a moderator at that.

i am surprised that you are still defending yourself against the obvious

Who was that, your two alts?

ROFL

so you saying this to misdirect from your alts? ok fine have it your way:
i am vip6, dont use alts, didnt spent a small fortune into the game and am not worried about bozos like you exploiting the game and tell everyone else to f off. you are the one who is complaining the game doesnt go far and is crying about reaching the ceiling in the game too early and yet you use first 2 chips as an excuse to exploit the game. after that didnt work you then used the crowns as an excuse to exploit but those are intended to penalize players like you.

do you really think all the other players here are stupid and you can fool anyone with your masquerade?

[Riot]

i am surprised that you are still defending yourself against the obvious


so you saying this to misdirect from your alts? ok fine have it your way:
i am vip6, dont use alts, didnt spent a small fortune into the game and am not worried about bozos like you exploiting the game and tell everyone else to f off. you are the one who is complaining the game doesnt go far and is crying about reaching the ceiling in the game too early and yet you use first 2 chips as an excuse to exploit the game. after that didnt work you then used the crowns as an excuse to exploit but those are intended to penalize players like you.

do you really think all the other players here are stupid and you can fool anyone with your masquerade?

No one is "defending". Just stating the obvious and the facts.

The only "masquerade" is your self righteousness. I'd like to see what you would do if you were in a position similar to me and Fleur and see what you do.

It is always easy to talk and say it is not fair until you are in the situation.

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

I have to respectfully disagree.

So what you are saying is Yue dropped and intentionally lost CWF to help others so it is ok, and Fluer and I did not intent to help anyone so it is an exploit?

This makes no sense and it is contradictory statement.

Here is the fact for the simple minded folks.

A person has the right to play the game as they see fit within the mechanics of the game (PERIOD). If the game allows them to change up the formation so they lose or win, then it is allowed and it is not an exploit. If a person uses a Maria that was bugged and not intended to be in the game but uses it in CWF, that is an exploit. Notice the two difference?

If a person wishes to throw a fight because they have crap chip, it is their choice. On the flip side, if a person chooses to lose rounds because he wants to in your words "help other people" earn more chips without having to guess who will win the next 5 rounds, then that is also a choice.

At the end the results were the same for the two champions in the finals.

I am sure there are those out there who won tickets because it was obvious to them are thankful, they do not have to "guess" or take chances on who will win. Which may have yielded less tickets at the end.

Notice there are around 17x betting the other direction during the fight? Those are probably who own multiple alts who are betting on both ends "just incase".

This game is full of possibilities and loop holes. To ask the DEV to punish someone for playing the game within the mechanics allows is ridiculous and will be laughed at. If the DEV team wants to fix that, then they can do a lot of things to not allow for these changes. But it is obviously clear, they do not have any intention of limiting how a person plays the game.



Another "bad idea" The only sin is allowing this topic to even be discussed in such a manner and by a moderator at that.

That is well said

[Morgan le Fay]

I have to respectfully disagree.

So what you are saying is Yue dropped and intentionally lost CWF to help others so it is ok, and Fluer and I did not intent to help anyone so it is an exploit?

This makes no sense and it is contradictory statement.

I never said it wasn't. However, what I was pointing out was the ethics.

Here is the fact for the simple minded folks.

A person has the right to play the game as they see fit within the mechanics of the game (PERIOD). If the game allows them to change up the formation so they lose or win, then it is allowed and it is not an exploit. If a person uses a Maria that was bugged and not intended to be in the game but uses it in CWF, that is an exploit. Notice the two difference?

Intentionally manipulating the mechanics to suit oneself is in the game world is an exploit. I'm not going to dress this up nicely for y'all benefits. The difference here is if uCool decides it goes against their ToS. An exploit can be either 'legal' or 'illegal' depending on the game company's view.

If a person wishes to throw a fight because they have crap chip, it is their choice. On the flip side, if a person chooses to lose rounds because he wants to in your words "help other people" earn more chips without having to guess who will win the next 5 rounds, then that is also a choice.

The whole point of CWF is to find the best and strongest, not have it manipulated to suit one or two players ends. This is what folk are most are annoyed at.

Regarding the chips, you know what? Big deal! Most of the player base would chew their right arm off to have a level 7+ chip so regularly. Instead of being so snotty about what colour chip you are awarded, be proud of achieving what most aspire to.

And FYI, you can't 'play how you choose', there are rules. Lets not dismiss the ToS and that applies to everyone no matter how much you spend.

At the end the results were the same for the two champions in the finals.

I am sure there are those out there who won tickets because it was obvious to them are thankful, they do not have to "guess" or take chances on who will win. Which may have yielded less tickets at the end.

Notice there are around 17x betting the other direction during the fight? Those are probably who own multiple alts who are betting on both ends "just incase".

Haven't you read the comments? It's not about the tickets or betting it's about putting the whole of CWF into disrepute.

This game is full of possibilities and loop holes. To ask the DEV to punish someone for playing the game within the mechanics allows is ridiculous and will be laughed at. If the DEV team wants to fix that, then they can do a lot of things to not allow for these changes. But it is obviously clear, they do not have any intention of limiting how a person plays the game.

I will agree there are far too many loop holes than I would like. Maybe instead of complaining about them stop adding to them.

Another "bad idea" The only sin is allowing this topic to even be discussed in such a manner and by a moderator at that.

You are dismissing it because it'll stop you doing what you want. If players didn't 'fix' matches, they'll be no need for suggestions you dislike.

Oh. Don't make slight remarks like that, it won't end well for you. That's a yellow card.

[steveshort59_4035466]

If they aren't going to take action can they at least change the name of this event to Dishonorable Warfare cause that sure wasn't Championship Warfare

[kaisim_2492829]

A person has the right to play the game as they see fit within the mechanics of the game (PERIOD). If the game allows them to change up the formation so they lose or win, then it is allowed and it is not an exploit. If a person uses a Maria that was bugged and not intended to be in the game but uses it in CWF, that is an exploit. Notice the two difference?

i had missed this part in all your verbal diarrhea and like to respond to it directly:
i know the difference but you obviously dont. let me explain it to you, so someone with your intellectual superiority will understand. in your above example:
player A is exploiting the in-game mechanics while player B is cheating by exploiting a bug.
you are talking about two different things. you are either not realizing that or obliterate to your own excuses that your wishful thinking turns into your personal reality.

EDIT:

No one is "defending". Just stating the obvious and the facts.

The only "masquerade" is your self righteousness. I'd like to see what you would do if you were in a position similar to me and Fleur and see what you do.

It is always easy to talk and say it is not fair until you are in the situation.

i would always try to win every single match and for the same reason i suggested to have a counter for the won and lost games and base the total of tickets on that instead of a betting system to give the CW more integrity and make losers like you either take the crown or the same bad rewards as everyone else does who didnt make it into the top 8.

ps: and yes you are defending yourself and if may add, you are doing a really bad job doing so. i'd suggest to better shush or you will drag yourself even further down the gutter

[g346007_1906957]

Who was that, your two alts?

ROFL

Really? Laughing at people quitting...

I'd like to see what you would do if you were in a position similar to me and Fleur and see what you do.

It is always easy to talk and say it is not fair until you are in the situation.

Feel like making that donation? Because until then, none of us will know what it's like to have more money than sense.

And again... you had no reason to throw your last fights apart from feeding your guild mates and alts with sure bets. You already won and were stuck with the crown... At least Fleur had a reason.

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

Question of interest:

If Tynon takes away our privilege of betting in cwf, then how are 'non-coiners' like me supposed to progress in the game if we can't get things such as purple medals, certain chips, and hero cards often enough to keep up with others?
I have much better things to spend my daily and Saturday sail gems on!

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

Another question of interest:

Why would you throw a final fight because you got bad/useless chips being given to you?
Those bad/useless chips I would kill for.
Remember, something is better than nothing... please argue on that statement