The most interesting CW yet

[mrridge2003_6469743]

so , how do we fix this ? Well we gotta change the rules .. How does that happen ? Well maybe a vote or concensus of some kind . When has that ever happened ?
Never , i get the point !

[kaisim_2492829]

what yee are arguing about is game dynamics ... any player can choose to give up a fight at any time .. thats fine. Any player can inform his/her opposition that they will do so . Inside the rules of the game this is perfectly acceptable .

you are actually wrong here and players are not supposed to communicate with each other during CW, for the same reason there is no chat window. you talking about being within the rules and that would imply that fixing fights and driving even more players away from the game is intended, but i strongly believe that if you would be able to ask any dev, GM or whoever about the matter then they would all disagree.
also rigging fights is rather counterproductive to in-game dynamics and interrupts the intended flow.

ps: i wonder who's alt this is, since it took you 15 months to do your first 2 posts lol

[kaisim_2492829]

so , how do we fix this ? Well we gotta change the rules .. How does that happen ? Well maybe a vote or concensus of some kind . When has that ever happened ?
Never , i get the point !

nothing to vote on, the TOS was written before the CW was implemented. as such ucool reserved the rights to change it at anytime they please and have no obligations to inform you about it.
no vote, no census and no one cares for your, mine or anyone else's opinion at ucool (maybe the mods have influence if they would contact them? no clue). dawnseeker was the last to start an official poll (was about moving GW times i believe) and even tho most voted on something else, ucool did what they thought was the best for the game.

[DaBooMan]

Maybe there needs to be a CW section in ToS before anyone tries to make a valid argument. Until then you should all simmer down.

[Riot]

That maybe, Blayd bought Fleur's account?

you got me Herby! I paid a dollar for his account. $.99 more than what your account is worth. rofl

[perawind_8762856]

Given that Tynon has not weighed in on the issue of powering down for CW, I would not say it is an exploit.

[FlandreScarlet_7896971]

Sounds like we need to make sure that guild members face each other sooner. Long before the finals. We're not going to punish Yue since he really did not cheat. It was a ridiculous situation to happen though.

I agree with this mostly. Yue did not do anything wrong, but we certainly made an oversight allowing this to occur. The problem is guildmates fighting each other in the later rounds. We should arrange the brackets so they instead fight each other in the early rounds.

Though different context, the same situation applies to this cw and any of the others which fights were thrown. I'll just highlight the key words for those who are still stuck on this being a exploit.

"We're not going to punish Yue since he really did not cheat"

"Yue did not do anything wrong"

Same idea of throwing a match, whether or not your "ethics" say it was good or bad since yue at the time was helping a guild mate matters not in the fact that it was deemed not to be against the ToS.

The only solace I have is knowing tynon has already declared its not an exploit, so all ya'll crying will amount to nothing.

[Greenly]

can't we just drop this already? it's been beaten to death after every other CW with a new thread. it happens and tynon won't do anything about it, get over it and move on.

[kaisim_2492829]

Though different context, the same situation applies to this cw and any of the others which fights were thrown. I'll just highlight the key words for those who are still stuck on this being a exploit.

"We're not going to punish Yue since he really did not cheat"

"Yue did not do anything wrong"

Same idea of throwing a match, whether or not your "ethics" say it was good or bad since yue at the time was helping a guild mate matters not in the fact that it was deemed not to be against the ToS.

The only solace I have is knowing tynon has already declared its not an exploit, so all ya'll crying will amount to nothing.

i agree with dawn said that they are not cheating and no one, absolutely no one accused them of cheating. they are being accused of fixing the fights to exploit the ticket system so they can milk higher profits out of the game for themselves, their alts and friends.
i dont recall exactly how it was back then but if i remember right (and please correct me if i am wrong) but the accused player threw all matches to a guild mate. so in our case here they switched with powering down and knew exactly when to power down and when to power up. they didnt even alternate and admitted to be exploiting and throwing battles on purpose (to remind you: for "crowns and chips").
yue on the other hand (if i remember right) would have been the clear winner and gave all the matches to a guild mate and never powered back up to make any profit from it.

THAT is the true difference in it that you fail to see.

[Morgan le Fay]

Maybe there needs to be a CW section in ToS before anyone tries to make a valid argument. Until then you should all simmer down.

Maybe there should be a section on swapping maps out and sinking continuously, powering down for HP (I know you guys on s1 don't power down, I'm just talking generally) , knocking yourself down in Arena to farm, hiding out in HR to attack players..... and so on. All of these are exploits. Bending the gameplay to get the best rewards. As I've said numerous times, what is considered a legal or illegal exploit is down to uCool. The main issue here is no one really understanding what an exploit is.

I will add that no one here has accused anyone of cheating.

Sounds like we need to make sure that guild members face each other sooner. Long before the finals. We're not going to punish Yue since he really did not cheat. It was a ridiculous situation to happen though.

Tynon changed it after this event to prevent guildies reaching the final together. He also said that match fixing is ridiculous and I agree.

If you don't want the chips or crowns-don't enter CWF. If you have managed to completely max out your heroes on saints and stars, then you don't need the tickets either. It might also save all this grief if you quietly bowed out and let someone else strive for the glory. The real underlying issue here is that we have two players who in their own right have done well but aren't that interested in winning CWF when plenty out there secretly wish they could. It's annoying to see it being treated so flippantly and until everyone grasps that this will never get any better.

The unwritten rule in any sport or game is if you don't enjoy it don't play it.