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    ragna helps newbies gaining some reputation, developing strategies, finding longterm battle survival forms for GW and is on new servers actually fun when there is a high density in population.
    however, the further you get into the game, the more pointless it becomes for the individual players to the point where they stop signing up. it's one of those newbie things from the game as for example for example midweek madness is where the further you advance the more obsolete it becomes. with lady and heavens palace based on the rewards it's the same thing.
    i think there is more important things that need to be changed in game than ragna.

    that being said, the real problem of ragna is the reward system being antiquated. after introducing RC and the new title/reputation system, some rewards like royal arena got adjusted and gave you more reputation and others like HP, guild chest, etc ... and the "dead horse ragna" didnt. in my mind the developers simply forgot to adjust the ragna reward system at the time when the title system got changed.
    the easiest fix would be to increase ragna rewards tenfold. so someone who does a 30 killing streak gets 20k reputation instead of 2k and 10m credits. 10m credits maybe sounds "too much" to some on the first thought but when you compare it with other events as for example banish, lady, HP, its spot on the point and a more average reward for an almost hour long daily event.
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    ragna helps newbies gaining some reputation, developing strategies, finding longterm battle survival forms for GW and is on new servers actually fun when there is a high density in population.
    however, the further you get into the game, the more pointless it becomes for the individual players to the point where they stop signing up. it's one of those newbie things from the game as for example for example midweek madness is where the further you advance the more obsolete it becomes. with lady and heavens palace based on the rewards it's the same thing.
    i think there is more important things that need to be changed in game than ragna.

    that being said, the real problem of ragna is the reward system being antiquated. after introducing RC and the new title/reputation system, some rewards like royal arena got adjusted and gave you more reputation and others like HP, guild chest, etc ... and the "dead horse ragna" didnt. in my mind the developers simply forgot to adjust the ragna reward system at the time when the title system got changed.
    the easiest fix would be to increase ragna rewards tenfold. so someone who does a 30 killing streak gets 20k reputation instead of 2k and 10m credits. 10m credits maybe sounds "too much" to some on the first thought but when you compare it with other events as for example banish, lady, HP, its spot on the point and a more average reward for an almost hour long daily event.
    Please no credits D:

    I have no patience to flip in tavern anymore...


    Little off topic, but mid-week madness also needs adjusting. Now with casino, it doesn't even help people new to the game.

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    what is mid week madness that you are talking about people? i am missing something after my year of playing o.O huehue.. i jest, just never paid [xcuse myself here] attention to the paytoplay events.. but since u can buy double the amount from chests in the fair nowadays, seems they should "fix" this aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    Please no credits D:

    I have no patience to flip in tavern anymore...


    Little off topic, but mid-week madness also needs adjusting. Now with casino, it doesn't even help people new to the game.
    it wont make a dent into the 700m i have to flip today, but like i said: newbies profit from it

    Quote Originally Posted by foohaf_1983482 View Post
    what is mid week madness that you are talking about people? i am missing something after my year of playing o.O huehue.. i jest, just never paid [xcuse myself here] attention to the paytoplay events.. but since u can buy double the amount from chests in the fair nowadays, seems they should "fix" this aswell.
    midweek madness is the weekly event on every wednesday, increasing the amount inside of the mysterious chests you can buy. another event important to newbies and upcoming coiners. dont forget that new players cant access fair right away and have to "earn" it first by leveling up. the further you get into the game tho, the less the chests will be bought since coin bonus on the level 4 cities and the increased amount in fair, shrine and p.stone will increase far beyond the value in the chests.
    a while back dawnseeker mentioned that they are looking into changing or improving the mysterious chests, but nothing been done since.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    it wont make a dent into the 700m i have to flip today, but like i said: newbies profit from it



    midweek madness is the weekly event on every wednesday, increasing the amount inside of the mysterious chests you can buy. another event important to newbies and upcoming coiners. dont forget that new players cant access fair right away and have to "earn" it first by leveling up. the further you get into the game tho, the less the chests will be bought since coin bonus on the level 4 cities and the increased amount in fair, shrine and p.stone will increase far beyond the value in the chests.
    a while back dawnseeker mentioned that they are looking into changing or improving the mysterious chests, but nothing been done since.
    I don't remember when people get casino, but once they do, midweek madness will be pointless. Pretty sure you get more coins and credits per gem with the casino. If anything, this event just tricks people into putting their gems in the wrong place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    Maybe people, like me, unfortunately got no choice anymore.
    I'd prefer they take credits away from rag and give us 1000 reputation for first streak we get, then 4000 second streak, 9000 3rd streak, 16000 4th streak, then from 5th streak starts at 1000 rep again and works itself up.
    Otherwise we would just get excessive reputation which is not good!
    3.8m to get aphrodite and you are worried about someone getting 10k in ragna? lol

    PS: whats the player gonna think about your 3rd streak of 6 that gets a 46-0 streak and you reward him with 1k rep but you get 9k?

    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    I don't remember when people get casino, but once they do, midweek madness will be pointless. Pretty sure you get more coins and credits per gem with the casino. If anything, this event just tricks people into putting their gems in the wrong place.
    you meant fair, not casino?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post

    you meant fair, not casino?
    I mean casino. Even ignoring the other rewards, you will get more coins/credits for your gems than the chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    I mean casino. Even ignoring the other rewards, you will get more coins/credits for your gems than the chest.
    i dont know about that, but i dont have gems to waste on the casino either. most my coins come from 40-60% at 1.25B banishes and shrine (1 gem = 1.6m on the first 5 clicks and occasional bonus). fair is 19m for 100 gems ... and the casino? i think i am lucky if i get a 5m coins instead of a chip on my free roll (or 5 gemroll).
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    3.8m to get aphrodite and you are worried about someone getting 10k in ragna? lol

    PS: whats the player gonna think about your 3rd streak of 6 that gets a 46-0 streak and you reward him with 1k rep but you get 9k?



    you meant fair, not casino?
    It's an idea that can be worked around.
    It will also help smaller people get stronger quicker
    16k rep just for winning a fight is a lot.. perhaps you could include 25k rep as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by g346007_1906957 View Post
    Please no credits D:

    I have no patience to flip in tavern anymore...


    Little off topic, but mid-week madness also needs adjusting. Now with casino, it doesn't even help people new to the game.
    Maybe people, like me, unfortunately got no choice anymore.
    I'd prefer they take credits away from rag and give us 1000 reputation for first streak we get, then 4000 second streak, 9000 3rd streak, 16000 4th streak, then from 5th streak starts at 1000 rep again and works itself up.
    Otherwise we would just get excessive reputation which is not good!

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