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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    You want a reasonable chance of success? EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME IS PREDETERMINED? Is that too big a word for you? Well, it simply means that this game has a DESTINY. The server on uCools side knows when our 10th star on adamanti is going to be successful, it knows if we are going to flip over a purple card with card broker, it knows what we going to get in casino, it knows if our Angel 5 main is going to pass with 2 cards but fail with 3. Our game has already been played for us, we're just unraveling what it turns out to be!
    Predetermined, but random. I have kept track of what the success of the different Saints are for Dawn, since I use her to build up the other heroes, and the success is not always the same. I do not know about stars, since I do not do stars on Dawn before the transfer to the other hero.

    I suppose that we could all share out experiences on how many medals it tool to get each star and see if it is always the same. In any case once the random value is determine, it does not change, and that is what it makes it look as it is predetermined.

    There is one thing that is not predetermined, at least not 100%, and that is what you get from a Guild Chest. The kind of item you get (like leve 1 chip, purple hero, etc) is predetermined, but the specific one is not. If you are going to get a purple hero, for example, you can 'X' out of the card flop screen and open the chest again until you get the one that you want.
    Last edited by Andy; 09-28-2014 at 06:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Predetermined, but random. I have kept track of what the success of the different Saints are for Dawn, since I use her to build up the other heroes, and the success is not always the same. I do not know about stars, since I do not do stars on Dawn before the transfer to the other hero.

    I suppose that we could all share out experiences on how many medals it tool to get each star and see if it is always the same. In any case once the random value is determine, it does not change, and that is what it makes it look as it is predetermined.

    There is one thing that is not predetermined, at least not 100%, and that is what you get from a Guild Chest. The kind of item you get (like leve 1 chip, purple hero, etc) is predetermined, but the specific one is not. If you are going to get a purple hero, for example, you can 'X' out of the card flop screen and open the chest again until you get the one that you want.
    the success of medals on each hero is predetermined (i believe for 10 steps) however it is predetermined for stages and/or until you transfer then it will be reset and randomly predetermined for the next X attempts.

    PS: my lance went from 0-9 stars without a single loss, from 9-15 i lost 4 attempts and since then i must have lost at least 100+ purples and he not budging
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    There is one thing that is not predetermined, at least not 100%, and that is what you get from a Guild Chest. The kind of item you get (like leve 1 chip, purple hero, etc) is predetermined, but the specific one is not. If you are going to get a purple hero, for example, you can 'X' out of the card flop screen and open the chest again until you get the one that you want.
    Yes, I do that as well when I want a map from guild chest or a shot at 10 gems. I think that out of the 5 cards you see that are displayed there, one is already predetermined for you, until you press the 'X' button and get a random different 5 cards where one again out of that list is predetermined for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    Yes, I do that as well when I want a map from guild chest or a shot at 10 gems. I think that out of the 5 cards you see that are displayed there, one is already predetermined for you, until you press the 'X' button and get a random different 5 cards where one again out of that list is predetermined for you!
    by the way you explained it, i am not sure if you got that wrong or right so please let me reiterate this to be clear. the way how it works is that you get ONE predetermined card until you pull it and the other 4 cards are like decoration. so if the game decides to give you credits from the guild chest, you will get credits on every attempt when you re-opened the box and closed it before you click on shuffle.
    with cards and chips, only the general "level" is predetermined not the particular kind. so if the game decided to give you a purple hero you will keep on getting a random purple hero along with 4 other cards (for decoration) as fillers or motivation to make it more interesting for the players (aiming for thoughts like "oh i almost got 10 gems" or "aww why i picked that thing next to the gold hero").
    when you click on the X to close the chest you can find out what you get by elimination and once you determined you will get a purple hero you can then open/close until you get the hero you desire.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    by the way you explained it, i am not sure if you got that wrong or right so please let me reiterate this to be clear. the way how it works is that you get ONE predetermined card until you pull it and the other 4 cards are like decoration. so if the game decides to give you credits from the guild chest, you will get credits on every attempt when you re-opened the box and closed it before you click on shuffle.
    with cards and chips, only the general "level" is predetermined not the particular kind. so if the game decided to give you a purple hero you will keep on getting a random purple hero along with 4 other cards (for decoration) as fillers or motivation to make it more interesting for the players (aiming for thoughts like "oh i almost got 10 gems" or "aww why i picked that thing next to the gold hero").
    when you click on the X to close the chest you can find out what you get by elimination and once you determined you will get a purple hero you can then open/close until you get the hero you desire.
    No it definitely does not work like this!

    I have wanted a map before, where the first time I open the chest for 5 different options, there is definitely no map displayed on that list before I click on shuffle.
    I clicked the 'X' button over again until I saw the map and yes, I got the map that I wanted (L or R doesn't matter), but I got the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
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    I have wanted a map before, where the first time I open the chest for 5 different options, there is definitely no map displayed on that list before I click on shuffle.
    I clicked the 'X' button over again until I saw the map and yes, I got the map that I wanted (L or R doesn't matter), but I got the map.
    you'd need to rephrase that, but assuming on your upset i'd assume when you first open a box you didn't see a map and continued to open/close until you saw a map?
    either way, maps is a little different from other items in the chest, there is an exception that you can not get a map while you are holding one. if you have a map in your guild chest and acquire one in the meantime for example from assistant, the map will turn into coins. if you are opening/closing a chest it could be showing coins (instead of a map because you have one) and someone jumps on your boat and is sailing with you, the coins will switch back into the map.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    No it definitely does not work like this!
    and yes it definitely works exactly like this


    can we now please return to the OP and stop talking about guild chests? if you dont clearly understand you can always pm me or read the previous posts again
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 09-29-2014 at 08:34 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    this idea is basically what Knight's fable does with their gems upgrading

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