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Thread: Runes on helpers, ie; Herja/Ezekiel

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    Runes on helpers, ie; Herja/Ezekiel

    Has anyone made any tests or determinations on whether the "helper" class of hero is a mage or not?? I know they have to use staff. My question really is about runes. I see now many people with differing opinions on whether they need preciseness, can benefit from adv or intenseness. I have looked at the top players and it varies. I have done a bit of testing, but I would like to hear what others think. In many ways their power is more of a skill than a magic, and there does not seem to be a rune for them as the runes never changed when they were added.
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    Personally ive yet to see herja/ezek miss, I dont believe they require intenseness preciseness advantage, tho i havnt tested it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    Has anyone made any tests or determinations on whether the "helper" class of hero is a mage or not?? I know they have to use staff. My question really is about runes. I see now many people with differing opinions on whether they need preciseness, can benefit from adv or intenseness. I have looked at the top players and it varies. I have done a bit of testing, but I would like to hear what others think. In many ways their power is more of a skill than a magic, and there does not seem to be a rune for them as the runes never changed when they were added.
    look at it this way: if you added all 3 divine runes (which you will do anyways, sooner or later) and add all defense runes, you have one open rune slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    look at it this way: if you added all 3 divine runes (which you will do anyways, sooner or later) and add all defense runes, you have one open rune slot.
    I just use a Dex on my herja as I don't believe it needs any break. Might save some manual runing.

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    Zeke and Herja don't benefit from offensive runes, but it's a good place to carry a spare.

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    I have a prec on my helper just casue of what kaisim said, I have 1 open slot. the rest are all def runes.

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    Thanks all. (lack of) Storage for runes is as good a reason to keep them there as any. As when they were first released, the belief was they needed it since they use staff - but really are not mages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    Thanks all. (lack of) Storage for runes is as good a reason to keep them there as any. As when they were first released, the belief was they needed it since they use staff - but really are not mages.
    i dont like bringing this up again because its been talked about up to the point of exhaustion on the forums, but in the early replays there used to be one where herja missed one hero debuffing. that started a heated discussion including the fact that herja got a +25 hitrating add-on by default. you will find a lot if you search for it on the forum. since then i used to have a low hit rating on my herja since she got tank runes anyways, in case i wanted to switch her or the rune set for a tank like saff or ahmose (my ezk doesnt, he carries a vengance for faster switching).
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    Use only defensive rune on Hejja and Eze. Rge rest are just wasted, The same for equipment. A staff of Spirit is wasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    A staff or Spirit is wasted.
    not really, you still profit from the defense set bonuses. to my guild members i always suggest to have a +0 staff/spirit on herja/ezk
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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