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    I shouldn't worry too much about COE, it was never fully developed so I guess they dumped it. It was only a poor version of Clash of Clans in any case. If you play Clash of Clans then it wasn't worth playing COE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rafmeister_5440998 View Post
    If Tynon goes out of business, then I lose almost $35. Made seven $5 purchases: four little packages on servers when starting out, and three newbie packages on my three playing servers. That seems a reasonable fee for over one year of hobby gaming.
    Lol, you've already lost that money!
    Once you spend in the game you have lost, no getting it back. Little thing called tough luck unfortunately
    Just because Tynon may go out of business doesn't mean that you are then going to lose that money.. it's already out your pocket.. it's GONE!
    Should double think before spending

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    Lol, you've already lost that money!
    Once you spend in the game you have lost, no getting it back. Little thing called tough luck unfortunately
    Just because Tynon may go out of business doesn't mean that you are then going to lose that money.. it's already out your pocket.. it's GONE!
    Should double think before spending
    No you are 110% incorrect

    he spent $35 on virtual goods which he then used to power up his virtual toons. SO he has that virtual powered up toons that are his and noone else can lay claim to have those toons on those servers. SO yes he did buy something. It is not something you can physically touch or hold but it is a virtual good. Therefor if the game shuts down before he is done using said virtual goods he is out the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    No you are 110% incorrect

    he spent $35 on virtual goods which he then used to power up his virtual toons. SO he has that virtual powered up toons that are his and noone else can lay claim to have those toons on those servers. SO yes he did buy something. It is not something you can physically touch or hold but it is a virtual good. Therefor if the game shuts down before he is done using said virtual goods he is out the money.

    Perception is King
    Buy something and Tynon/uCool will not give you your money back. The second that money leaves your pocket, you have lost it.
    In the OP, he has already lost the $35 but he has not lost the advantage that he gained out of those $35, therefore, if uCool go out of business then you aren't losing the money, but the advantage you gained from spending that money. There is quite a big difference!

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    David's right, once you have paid for your virtual goods in this case gems, since you've already received the items it's no breach of contract. You spent 'em you lost 'em even if the game does go down. Always read the Terms and Conditions of sale.

    And regarding CoE, it's still live. Not sure where the where the rumours of it being 'dumped' came from other than the same complaints on their forum regarding lack of company input.

    Finally, Dawnseeker has left uCool. Hopefully we are singing from the same hymn sheet now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    No you are 110% incorrect

    he spent $35 on virtual goods which he then used to power up his virtual toons. SO he has that virtual powered up toons that are his and noone else can lay claim to have those toons on those servers. SO yes he did buy something. It is not something you can physically touch or hold but it is a virtual good. Therefor if the game shuts down before he is done using said virtual goods he is out the money.

    Perception is King
    actually, he never had property of any items, heroes nor purchased goods.
    according to the TOS anything regarding the game stays property of ucool:

    1.10. Ownership 1.10.1. Games and Service All rights and title in and to the Service (including without limitation any user accounts, titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialogue, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audio-visual effects, methods of operation, moral rights, any related documentation, "applets" incorporated into the Game Client, character profile information, recordings of games played using the Game Client, and the Game Client and server software) are owned by uCool or its licensors. The Game and the Service are protected by United States and international laws, and may contain certain licensed materials in which uCool’s licensors may enforce their rights in the event of any violation of this Agreement.

    what we/he bought are technically fees to use those services/items. you are however correct on with him being out of his money, gone and lost forever.

    there was however a supreme court that the ruled the gamer in a different game was to be refunded. it was different though because he lived in east asia and the game was not und US laws (unlike tynon).
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    I believe the game has to follow the laws of the country the gamer is in. Which is why when a game does a jackpot game. Italy and certain parts of the states are not permitted to enter and win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBooMan View Post
    I believe the game has to follow the laws of the country the gamer is in. Which is why when a game does a jackpot game. Italy and certain parts of the states are not permitted to enter and win.
    If you want to play a game, then you better follow the TOS or go find another game.
    They don't care whether you live somewhere other than the USA and they are not obliged to follow the laws of your country.
    They are legally liable, therefore, they don't have to give a damn about what other entities/persons believe outside their game but make the choices they think will solely benefit their game.
    I don't want to change what you believe.. that's not my place here. However, I'm just trying to explain to you why they should not follow laws of other countries and instead follow the laws of what their TOS says!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    If you want to play a game, then you better follow the TOS or go find another game.
    They don't care whether you live somewhere other than the USA and they are not obliged to follow the laws of your country.
    They are legally liable, therefore, they don't have to give a damn about what other entities/persons believe outside their game but make the choices they think will solely benefit their game.
    I don't want to change what you believe.. that's not my place here. However, I'm just trying to explain to you why they should not follow laws of other countries and instead follow the laws of what their TOS says!
    I'm not on about ToS I am on about uCool still need to follow certain laws in certain countries. Not once did I mention their ToS.
    My post was a simple pointer games have to follow certain laws depending on which country that gamer is from.

    I believe there was talks about limitations on how much people could spend on a game in certain countries. By which the game provider would have to follow.

    I don't really care what uCool do.

    Whatever they do we need to deal with. All I'm saying is they have to follow rules too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBooMan View Post
    I'm not on about ToS I am on about uCool still need to follow certain laws in certain countries. Not once did I mention their ToS.
    My post was a simple pointer games have to follow certain laws depending on which country that gamer is from.

    I believe there was talks about limitations on how much people could spend on a game in certain countries. By which the game provider would have to follow.

    I don't really care what uCool do.

    Whatever they do we need to deal with. All I'm saying is they have to follow rules too.

    It doesn't matter what country your're in, this is what you agreed to when you created your account.

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    ALL PURCHASES AND REDEMPTIONS OF VIRTUAL ENHANCEMENTS MADE THROUGH THE SERVICE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE.

    You can order Virtual Enhancements by visiting the Tynon In-Game Shop, accessing a third party payment gateway, confirming the particulars of your purchase and re-affirming your agreement to these Terms. When you place an order to purchase Virtual Enhancements from our Service, you will receive an in-game confirmatory message that will contain details of the items you have ordered. For Virtual Enhancements, your order will represent an offer to us to purchase the relevant product(s) which will be accepted by us when we make the Virtual Enhancements available in your account for you to use in our games or debit your credit card or other accepted/approved payment method, whichever comes first. The provision of Virtual Enhancements for use in the Tynon Service and Game is a service provided by uCool that commences immediately upon acceptance by uCool of your purchase. By ordering Virtual Enhancements you agree and accept that uCool will provide them to you immediately following completion of your purchase. If you reside in the European Union and you purchase an enhancement from uCool, you have the right to withdraw from a purchase within seven calendar days, commencing on the day after the date of purchase (the "Cooling Off Period"). However, you lose your right of withdrawal if the performance or use of the enhancements begins before the end of the Cooling Off Period.
    In short no refunds are applicable unless you got yourself a very expensive and probably a not very clever one. The only exception to the 'rule' so to speak is if any purchases you have made weren't received by you.

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