Nothing more awesome than a Arch 3 Theseus that's 14 stars and has 91k skill atk being weaker than a Rhize that's Saint 2 with 9 stars, both having the same gear/runes.
Nothing more awesome than a Arch 3 Theseus that's 14 stars and has 91k skill atk being weaker than a Rhize that's Saint 2 with 9 stars, both having the same gear/runes.
Yeah my Theseus is half the man Rhize is, arch 2, 11 stars-vs half angel 4, 9 stars. I get way better results from Rhize.Originally Posted by princeziduja_8811987
dont forget that one retains morale and the other needs herja/ezk to skill every round. also the base defense stats and HP are higher higher on one but the others cards are significantly cheaper...
both heroes are different and involve different strategies therefore you cant really compare them with each other even tho they have similarities.
KT's defensive gains far outweighs Rhize's.
At 18 stars, KT has the highest defensive bonuses for any hero.
That's why you see top players use KT in PvP, not Rhize.
KT has many advantages over rhize, while rhize has advantages over KT.
As mentioned
cost of cards are cheaper
and more offensive power
for rhize
while he needs herja/prophet and has no defensive bonuses
KT on the other hand
retains morale
has a built in crit that lets his damage often out do rhize but its not a guarantee
and has high defensive bonuses
while hi scards cost more and his base offensive power is lower
BOTH are great heroes.
Depends on what your doing.
Just use both they are a fun combo for any situation
Actually, just so you guys know, KT has a base skill atk of 1673 and a strength value of 105. Rhize has a base skill atk of 1119 and only a strength value of 83. Here's the biggest issue of it. The value of your skill atk is what determines how much damage you deal, as well as how many potential enemies that one hero can hit which is 3 for both. Under no circumstance what so ever should a 91k skill atk KT deal less damage than a 80k skill atk Rhize. It doesn't matter if one retains morale or not as that isn't a basis for the damage dealt. The only possible way Rhize should ever be capable of hitting for more than KT is if he has higher skill atk.
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the physical attack value also plays a part in the skill attack damage
As does teh physical and skill def of the heroes being hit
YOu only told us the sk attack originally of KT not rhize so how are we suppose to know. There are many factors
It is really pretty simple rhize's attack has a greater attack multiplier than KT. As mentioned already in this thread there are many advantages KT has over Rhize but for damage Rhize is superior all else being equal. Also sense KT has a high crit bonus that isn't even always the case in combat.
Actually doing some very simple research would have proved KT had far greater of all stats regardless. Looking at base stats would show all of KTs atk and def were much higher based than Rhize. Not only that KT's Command/Strength/Intelligence are far higher based. The last thing is that I stated KT was 14 stars while Rhize was 9. Even if no value was placed it's already very obvious KT has higher Patk/Satk.
Actually if you test it Rhize deals much less damage than KT in pvp. The biggest issue is the HR fight Guardian of Dragon Spirit, which I tested. Regardless of who I fought in PVP my rhize dealt, on average, 5k less damage than my KT. Then you take it to PVE and Rhize deals an epic amount of more damage. It's completely absurd.
you forget that the base stats are before the "retaining morale" and other penalties are added. theseus is in this case not the best example. better to compare for example scipio. his base stats are for more superior over most heroes, but he gets skill penalty for gutshot and skill penalty for retaining morale that causes him to do the least damage of all.
the formula for calculating damage is far more complicated than just adding physical and skill damage up.
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