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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    Kaisim, I am really starting to fail to understand your logic of thinking of how moving realms is an exploit?
    please quote the passage where i said this
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    But really, not every motive to do something in game is sinister.
    No it's not it's true. However, there are a substantial minority with purely sinister motives. That's why server moves won't happen because the player base, thanks to a few, can't be trusted. Merges would help but we only got 1 or 2 that took place over 10 months ago, which ended up being monumental failures. I doubt we'll see many more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    No it's not it's true. However, there are a substantial minority with purely sinister motives. That's why server moves won't happen because the player base, thanks to a few, can't be trusted. Merges would help but we only got 1 or 2 that took place over 10 months ago, which ended up being monumental failures. I doubt we'll see many more.
    Untrue.

    It won't happen because UCool won't spend the $$$$ to do it. Simple as that. No cash flow = no grow

    Plus what "sinister" motive does people have for moving servers? What can be so "sinister" about how people play this game? It is a war game remember? You are suppose to sink or be sunk, farm and be farmed, etc.

    If you are a care bear, then go play another game. This is not it for you.
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    In regards to CWF: "I" choose to lose when I do, because "I" want to maximize on "my" ticket gain so I can purchase more CHIPS!

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    Server mergers, because they are forced, aren't necessarily the way to go. But I 100% agree with Mischief; if you ARE an active player who wants to play and progress and are stuck on a server, through no fault of your own, where you are lucky to get more than 3 players in a banish (and its the same on all realms on that server) - that player is almost bound to lose interest and stop playing. This idea of players abusing the server transfer and so on doesn' t cut it. The end result would be loads of totally (as opposed to 95%) dead servers and a small number of very active ones, which must be better for the game as a whole. You can't be so afraid of a few miscreants that you strangle everything. Other games allow paid server transfers and it works fine, this is nothing new, nothing that hasn't been tested in numerous other places. No point in debating if it works - it does work, just look at other games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    And what if you are stuck on a server that you can't progress much in? What if you have friends on other servers, or the timezone works better for you?? Why does everyone think the worst when it comes to any changes? There are many servers here that are losing people, have way too many dead, abandoned accts, so maybe they need to look at merging again. But really, not every motive to do something in game is sinister.
    yep, yep, and yep

    well said.

    And anyone on this forum that says they never knowing how to cheat have never attempted to or have used it or knowing a loop hole and have never used it (which one calls it an exploit) in the game is liar.
    Last edited by Riot; 11-21-2014 at 03:51 PM. Reason: Because it is true FOOL!!!!!
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    In regards to CWF: "I" choose to lose when I do, because "I" want to maximize on "my" ticket gain so I can purchase more CHIPS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    Untrue.

    It won't happen because UCool won't spend the $$$$ to do it. Simple as that. No cash flow = no grow

    Plus what "sinister" motive does people have for moving servers? What can be so "sinister" about how people play this game? It is a war game remember? You are suppose to sink or be sunk, farm and be farmed, etc.

    If you are a care bear, then go play another game. This is not it for you.
    Plenty of sinister motives. If none are thought of now they will be. I'm sorry you think no one will try to exploit the system cos anyone who has played many games will tell you, if there's a way to cheese the system it'll be found. To be honest it never fails to surprise me how quickly these things are found.

    Your're bored I get it but there is no point trying to support an idea that I can tell you without a shadow of doubt will never happen. Call it unfair, disappointing, uCool not listening to their customers etc. you are flogging a dead horse here. Give it up and save the energy for something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by mparton_1280808 View Post
    Server mergers, because they are forced, aren't necessarily the way to go. But I 100% agree with Mischief; if you ARE an active player who wants to play and progress and are stuck on a server, through no fault of your own, where you are lucky to get more than 3 players in a banish (and its the same on all realms on that server) - that player is almost bound to lose interest and stop playing. This idea of players abusing the server transfer and so on doesn' t cut it. The end result would be loads of totally (as opposed to 95%) dead servers and a small number of very active ones, which must be better for the game as a whole. You can't be so afraid of a few miscreants that you strangle everything. Other games allow paid server transfers and it works fine, this is nothing new, nothing that hasn't been tested in numerous other places. No point in debating if it works - it does work, just look at other games.
    It is what it is. I've already explained that although everyone here 'has the best intentions' it will eventually become another way to cheese the game and sadly with the state of Tynon now it won't give us the active servers people crave. People will quit regardless and a lot of it is down to cheesing. Solve that problem people will play. Servers overrun with alts, one uber guild, tiny minority able to win CW etc etc are reasons why the servers are dead. I don't mince my words since it's the truth. Like it or not it dealt a hammer blow to Evony and depressed how it makes me, it's Groundhog Day here.

    And Finally just a quick scenario. Group of uber players port to a server has few large players. They start taking all the best rewards in Banish, sink ships for fun and the once happy players of that server quit because it's ruined their game. Server then becomes dead, boredom sinks in, players then save up to move again. Wash, rinse and repeat.

    Anyone who has really thought about, devs included know why this wouldn't work. Quickest way to kill this game off, imho.
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    You could make the server jump 1 directional
    So you can only move to an older server, surely there's not many that can move to an older server and control it

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    This game is well on it's way to death. One last ditch request for something to try to keep it alive is just begging for some attention from tynon Devs, not that i believe it would happen, or that there are devs working here. I just don't agree with the reasons as stated, which are speculation anyway. When Tynon decides to make changes, they don't care what they said before, or how the game "used" to be, they just change. I give myself until Xmas.... then it's give up time. (if i last that long) lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    This game is well on it's way to death. One last ditch request for something to try to keep it alive is just begging for some attention from tynon Devs, not that i believe it would happen, or that there are devs working here. I just don't agree with the reasons as stated, which are speculation anyway. When Tynon decides to make changes, they don't care what they said before, or how the game "used" to be, they just change. I give myself until Xmas.... then it's give up time. (if i last that long) lol
    I must say that I will most probably give myself until I've maxed all equipment, talents, stars (18 is too much for me), and sanctification's!
    It's just a matter of time until people really do start keeping their word and leaving without looking back. This game has been a good game to play and very enjoyable but it is definitely starting to get to the point where if there is nothing coming up then what is the use in continuing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    yep, yep, and yep

    well said.

    And anyone on this forum that says they never knowing how to cheat have never attempted to or have used it or knowing a loop hole and have never used it (which one calls it an exploit) in the game is liar.
    wrong.
    only because you cheat, exploit and "use loopholes" doesnt mean that others do. there is some players that know about cheats and exploits and prefer not to.
    i for example help others exploiting the palace by powering down for it on fridays. i exploit double sailing rewards by cashing in my last rewards from friday on saturday to get double gems for my last sail from friday.
    i do NOT exploit the lab, run myself up and down in the arena, i dont use alts, i dont run macros, i dont cheat in tavern even tho i know all the tricks, cheats and what you call "loopholes".
    i KNOW there is others that think the same way and i strongly believe that if someone cant enjoy a game without cheating in it then he/she should find a new game.
    we have players in our guild that cheat in the game wherever they can, run 800+ scores in lv3 easy lab 2-3x daily and have records of 1200 points which is insane. we also have players in our guild that think the same as i do and prefer not to cheat and just enjoy the game.

    i still think that if there should be server changes available then then ucool should charge hard cash for it and not gems. i am sorry to anyone who feels mad at me for it but those players exploit their gems with various "loopholes" and then ucool would give them the opportunity to not only run realms up and down but do that on different servers, can stalk, bully and harass others.
    if i had the chance to switch servers i would switch to server 1. simply because its the most crowded and i believe it would be the most fun to play there. however others would think the same and all of a sudden you would see empty servers across the board except for alts that get left behind.
    for those reasons i believe the servers should get merged first to a minimum as in either a 1-10 servers only setup or not to merge servers 1-10 and move all other servers together into servers 11-20.


    PS: thx for making me laugh riot, in changing your signature to a pretend quote and trying make your exploit sound less significant. i really thought you gave up trying to hide it until i saw your fake quote lol
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 11-21-2014 at 08:43 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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