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    Wait, so moving up and down in arena to farm gems, or switching realms is an exploit?


    And nice to see another post is turning into a kaisim-riot argument
    You 2 ever thought maybe the game devs left bcoz they got tired of u :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i for example help others exploiting the palace by powering down for it on fridays. i exploit double sailing rewards by cashing in my last rewards from friday on saturday to get double gems for my last sail from friday.
    Said the person who is totally against exploiting!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i do NOT exploit the lab, run myself up and down in the arena, i dont use alts, i dont run macros, i dont cheat in tavern even tho i know all the tricks, cheats and what you call "loopholes".
    FFS Kaisim again, it is not exploiting to run yourself up and down the arena and in post #41 you ask me to quote where you say this. While this is slightly indirect to changing realms regarded as an exploit, this statement would support the fact that you are saying changing realms and running up and down the arena is in fact an exploit, which is incorrect!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i KNOW there is others that think the same way and i strongly believe that if someone cant enjoy a game without cheating in it then he/she should find a new game.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but you can cheat in ALL games no matter what!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    we have players in our guild that cheat in the game wherever they can, run 800+ scores in lv3 easy lab 2-3x daily and have records of 1200 points which is insane. we also have players in our guild that think the same as i do and prefer not to cheat and just enjoy the game.
    If you are so against exploiting why don't you kick them out your guild. If you can't boss them around about exploiting then stop giving us your crap here as it is polluting the forums with unnecessary remarks!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    i still think that if there should be server changes available then then ucool should charge hard cash for it and not gems. i am sorry to anyone who feels mad at me for it but those players exploit their gems with various "loopholes" and then ucool would give them the opportunity to not only run realms up and down but do that on different servers, can stalk, bully and harass others.
    Why not give us players only ONE opportunity to do server transfer if were aren't happy with our current servers?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    if i had the chance to switch servers i would switch to server 1. simply because its the most crowded and i believe it would be the most fun to play there. however others would think the same and all of a sudden you would see empty servers across the board except for alts that get left behind.
    Well good luck to you! You will never be able to do lady, banish will be overly-crowded as it already is, you will get a top 100 position in arena if you are lucky enough, you won't get a better mount if you do not already have the wind-runner or chimera and I hope that you enjoy watching a big screen banner popping up 100 times in one hour.
    This would apply if all people game-wide had to infest server 1 more than it already is! Also, yes I have played server 1 in the past and hated it.

    P.S. No one asked what you would do if you had the chance to switch servers, but thank you for your 2 cent comment anyways

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    for those reasons i believe the servers should get merged first to a minimum as in either a 1-10 servers only setup or not to merge servers 1-10 and move all other servers together into servers 11-20.
    These words were once my words. It really is not nice taking someones words and making it appear as your own.
    The least you could have done was say: According to an OP, I believe...

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    Well said david. The word exploit is used to describe normal, legal, encouraged gameplay. The many activities that are in game, put there by Devs to be used are twisted, exaggerated, manipulated to make a point for argument's sake only. Kaisim should join a debate team, not play a wargame.

    Who cares anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    Said the person who is totally against exploiting!



    FFS Kaisim again, it is not exploiting to run yourself up and down the arena and in post #41 you ask me to quote where you say this. While this is slightly indirect to changing realms regarded as an exploit, this statement would support the fact that you are saying changing realms and running up and down the arena is in fact an exploit, which is incorrect!



    Sorry to burst your bubble but you can cheat in ALL games no matter what!
    oh david, let me explain you again:
    exploit means "using something to one’s own advantage" and does not imply cheating.
    now without going anal on your post and to save everyones time you should read the original post again and then will see some differences like i never said that running up and down the realms is cheating (but doing it with alts to pull you back down is). also i never said you cant cheat in other games, i did say that i enjoy playing games without cheating and think that if you cant do that you should find a new game where you dont have to cheat to enjoy it.
    yes i am against exploiting the game myself but i also said that if others want to do it then its their thing and not mine. meaning that if i help others by powering down in completing HP then i am not exploiting the game for my own advantage because on our server i would be the ONLY player being able to finish all 10 stages. ergo, if there was ANY advantage for me in not powering down and letting others win more stuff then it would be lost by me doing so.


    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    If you are so against exploiting why don't you kick them out your guild. If you can't boss them around about exploiting then stop giving us your crap here as it is polluting the forums with unnecessary remarks!
    Why not give us players only ONE opportunity to do server transfer if were aren't happy with our current servers?

    Well good luck to you! You will never be able to do lady, banish will be overly-crowded as it already is, you will get a top 100 position in arena if you are lucky enough, you won't get a better mount if you do not already have the wind-runner or chimera and I hope that you enjoy watching a big screen banner popping up 100 times in one hour.
    This would apply if all people game-wide had to infest server 1 more than it already is! Also, yes I have played server 1 in the past and hated it.

    P.S. No one asked what you would do if you had the chance to switch servers, but thank you for your 2 cent comment anyways



    These words were once my words. It really is not nice taking someones words and making it appear as your own.
    The least you could have done was say: According to an OP, I believe...
    i never complained about others exploiting the game, nor have i reported anyone. you guys have to stop putting words into my mouth. when i point out others exploiting and cheating tactics then its only because they should at least have the balls to admit that they are doing so. but instead they give you one excuse after the others and its supposed to be ok to cheat as long as everyone else is doing it and you call it different like "within the rules or "loopholes".


    Quote Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359 View Post
    Why not give us players only ONE opportunity to do server transfer if were aren't happy with our current servers?
    Well good luck to you! You will never be able to do lady, banish will be overly-crowded as it already is, you will get a top 100 position in arena if you are lucky enough, you won't get a better mount if you do not already have the wind-runner or chimera and I hope that you enjoy watching a big screen banner popping up 100 times in one hour.
    This would apply if all people game-wide had to infest server 1 more than it already is! Also, yes I have played server 1 in the past and hated it.

    P.S. No one asked what you would do if you had the chance to switch servers, but thank you for your 2 cent comment anyways



    These words were once my words. It really is not nice taking someones words and making it appear as your own.
    The least you could have done was say: According to an OP, I believe...
    there is another thing i have NEVER said:
    i have said to merge the servers into 1-10 or into 11-20. that does not mean i am against server transfers and 1 free transfer. but i am suggesting to merge all servers first to see what we are dealing with and then if you dont like it you can still transfer after. as a fact, my way would give you 2 free transfers instead of 1.
    regarding your "smacktalk" about financing the game, no lady, etc... i dont get your point, its absolutely pointless. why would ucool offer those services and the admin work that goes with it for gems when they could charge cash for it so they can pay their bills, because as it is currently the players would switch realms with exploited gems and not pay 1 cent additionally.

    also, FYI: i am the #1 on our server and dont have to dream about going into the top 100. being in the top 10 on server 1 would be a great goal tho but impossible as long as nincompoops start senseless arguments while trying to defend their pathetic attempts to call their cheating habits differently so they sound less offensive.


    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    Well said david. The word exploit is used to describe normal, legal, encouraged gameplay. The many activities that are in game, put there by Devs to be used are twisted, exaggerated, manipulated to make a point for argument's sake only. Kaisim should join a debate team, not play a wargame.

    Who cares anyway?
    and lastly, he did not say it well and misunderstood most of it. he still fails to show me the quote from last time about what i accused was of saying after you put words into my mouth.
    debate is not a bad idea, however thats what the forum is for


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    ps@david i have suggested the structure and the "super-merger" already before they did the first merger. about a month later ucool announced that they are planning on merging some servers. i even went into detail further and suggested back then to merge each server into 1 realm as a whole of the "new" servers. that way they would be able to merge 3 servers into 1 existing server (with 4 realms or even do 5). each realm would get their own GW and guilds would not be torn apart and that way servers could battle servers when merging into superguilds
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 11-21-2014 at 11:34 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    No, it is not for debate. It is no more up to you, or me, or any player to debate. I made a suggestion, hoping some dev, or dev rep might read.
    It is not about you being right, or wrong. It is not about player vs player - i don't care!!!!!!
    Done. You've turned yet another post into a personal soapbox.

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    i laugh at all of these postings. Kaisim, you seem to have a lot of free time on your hands to write in every post you see with a story to tell. good night
    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    In regards to CWF: "I" choose to lose when I do, because "I" want to maximize on "my" ticket gain so I can purchase more CHIPS!

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    And Finally just a quick scenario. Group of uber players port to a server has few large players. They start taking all the best rewards in Banish, sink ships for fun and the once happy players of that server quit because it's ruined their game. Server then becomes dead, boredom sinks in, players then save up to move again. Wash, rinse and repeat.

    Anyone who has really thought about, devs included know why this wouldn't work. Quickest way to kill this game off, imho.[/QUOTE]

    What servers are these you talk of with groups of happy active players existing, to be targeted in this way ? Maybe you are super lucky to be on one...

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    pS Kaisim - -what s your toon's name ? is it Ghostarcher ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    Exploit gems??? What are you talking about? You make such a mountain out of every molehill. Listen, gems received in arena are given freely by Tynon, not exploited. When a person spends gems, on whatever, what possible difference would it make whether they came from arena or your pocketbook??? You are still spending them in game.
    If they merge, fine, but not everyone wants to move or would. sigh Some react as if there would be some massive migration, i don't believe that.
    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    What??? nevermind!!! i don't care to get your point. whatever Don't move. Don't move realms. Don't (exploit) by taking gems in arena. Sit and pay Tynon. Happy gaming.
    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    Well said david. The word exploit is used to describe normal, legal, encouraged gameplay. The many activities that are in game, put there by Devs to be used are twisted, exaggerated, manipulated to make a point for argument's sake only. Kaisim should join a debate team, not play a wargame.
    Who cares anyway?
    Quote Originally Posted by MisChief View Post
    No, it is not for debate. It is no more up to you, or me, or any player to debate. I made a suggestion, hoping some dev, or dev rep might read.
    It is not about you being right, or wrong. It is not about player vs player - i don't care!!!!!!
    Done. You've turned yet another post into a personal soapbox.
    Quote Originally Posted by Riot View Post
    i laugh at all of these postings. Kaisim, you seem to have a lot of free time on your hands to write in every post you see with a story to tell. good night
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    pS Kaisim - -what s your toon's name ? is it Ghostarcher ??
    no, but your off topic posts, flaming, baiting, trolling like you and some others do will turn it into a "personal soapbox" and shut it down because they are on purpose planted to be destructive. it would be much more appreciated by everyone if you could try to stick on topic, stop trying to make it personal when someone disagrees to you. if someone has a different opinion than yours, then its only because we are different people with different opinions. we are not out to hunt you

    point is that we all agree on it being good for the game if there was a server transfer offered. the only difference is on the "how we get there and should make it a free service (gems) or charge money for it (raise revenue)"
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 11-22-2014 at 06:40 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    You know what? This thread has turned into another 'lets bash each other' and since the OPs idea ain't gonna happen no matter what suggestions are put forward I'm going to put an end to this before the latest bar brawl starts.

    Thanks.

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