Cwf seeding

[MisChief]

I still think it's time for an Ultimate CW. Take the highest powered players, those that have made it to 2nd night of knockoffs, and let them battle for crown. Keep the rest in normal CW, and let them fight for top there. If no one other than the previous winners ever get to win the prizes, no one else will ever get big enough to challenge them, so 3 years from now (assuming game lives, and all keep playing) it will be the same as all just keep growing. As it currently is, unless you win the lottery there just is no way to grow at a faster rate.

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

I still think it's time for an Ultimate CW. Take the highest powered players, those that have made it to 2nd night of knockoffs, and let them battle for crown. Keep the rest in normal CW, and let them fight for top there. If no one other than the previous winners ever get to win the prizes, no one else will ever get big enough to challenge them, so 3 years from now (assuming game lives, and all keep playing) it will be the same as all just keep growing. As it currently is, unless you win the lottery there just is no way to grow at a faster rate.

And how will it be determined how is in this weeks 'ultimate cwf' and 'normal cwf' and based on what, how will it differ in 2 weeks?
Just closing the loop holes in a good idea

[steveshort59_4035466]

That shouldn't be to hard you could for instance make "ultimate CW" for levels 110 and above and "normal" for those under 110 to start. Then you could have the top x finishers in the normal group bumped up to the "ultimate CW" from then on out so no one can slow down there level progression to stay in the "normal" group.

[MisChief]

And how will it be determined how is in this weeks 'ultimate cwf' and 'normal cwf' and based on what, how will it differ in 2 weeks?
Just closing the loop holes in a good idea

Well i'm not a game dev, so i have no clue just how all the details would work. I know that something needs done. I was thinking if they watched who won Day 3, rounds of 32 and on, then pull them into Ultimate. Maybe for a few weeks before starting it. The issue of mage card, that they all have maxed, the chip they don't like/need/use ... that's all up to Tynon. Hard to put in what doesn't exist (new mage). It could work that those that don't make semi's drop back to normal, while winners of normal move up, least it might be new blood, while sharing the prizes a bit more for others that can't make it now.

[service_8572198]

Forget all seeding, make the tree completely random, like the football cups here in UK (yes football not soccer :P)
Once the prelims are over, each player is entered randomly to the 512 tree, total luck of the draw
Ultimately 'the best' should win, but may give lower powers the chance to get further

[mattp169]

Forget all seeding, make the tree completely random, like the football cups here in UK (yes football not soccer :P)
Once the prelims are over, each player is entered randomly to the 512 tree, total luck of the draw
Ultimately 'the best' should win, but may give lower powers the chance to get further

lol
thats what we already have
and its futbol or soccer
football is something else
lol

[predakon_8052025]

Forget all seeding, make the tree completely random, like the football cups here in UK (yes football not soccer :P)
Once the prelims are over, each player is entered randomly to the 512 tree, total luck of the draw
Ultimately 'the best' should win, but may give lower powers the chance to get further

Please don't suggest that lower players/non super rich dudes actually have a chance to compete outside of spending a National Economy on a internet game

[Andy]

Forget all seeding, make the tree completely random, like the football cups here in UK (yes football not soccer :P)
Once the prelims are over, each player is entered randomly to the 512 tree, total luck of the draw
Ultimately 'the best' should win, but may give lower powers the chance to get further

I have a feeling that that is the way it is now. At least that is what I have concluded from the pairing that I have seen up to now.
I do agree with Matt. Since it is a single elimination tournament the standard seeding rules should be followed First with last, 2nd with next to last, etc.) The real issue is how to do the rankings. Any thing that is related to total power is not a good indication. It would have to be maximum ever attained power, like on the leader boards, or it could be manipulated.

One way to do it is by how far has the player has progress in prior CWFs. A player could get 1 point for each stage that he has reached in the last 20 (or some other number) CWFs. If there ate ties, then it is resolved by number of wins in the preliminaries and then maximum attained power. The reason I have the number of wins in the preliminaries as 2nd instead of first is that because there are not enough battles to make it statistically relevant to be used first.

[kaisim_2492829]

lol
thats what we already have
and its futbol or soccer
football is something else
lol

we dont have that.
otherwise same servers/guilds would meet each other and more often. they would even face each other in the finals. the only reason why this doesnt happen is because its tweaked.
i remember that in the early CW days guild mates met each other in the finals a couple times and dawn said they'd initiate steps to prevent that in the future.

[kaisim_2492829]

[...]The real issue is how to do the rankings. Any thing that is related to total power is not a good indication. [...]

is it really?
i mean think about it, if the stronger player is strictly matched with the according weakest then it would be in the interest of each player to show up with the most power they can possibly have to avoid an early out against other high powered players.
the other way around if the highest player powers down to some ridiculous noob rating he then would have to power back up to win the battle against whoever and his power then is adjusted in round 2 unless he has gotten himself eliminated early.

I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.