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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    is it really?
    i mean think about it, if the stronger player is strictly matched with the according weakest then it would be in the interest of each player to show up with the most power they can possibly have to avoid an early out against other high powered players.
    the other way around if the highest player powers down to some ridiculous noob rating he then would have to power back up to win the battle against whoever and his power then is adjusted in round 2 unless he has gotten himself eliminated early.
    That is exactly what I mean. The formation that gives you the most power is not what you would use in PvP. The best indication of how 'strong' you are in PvP is past performance in CWF, at least in my opinion. It may be a little lopsided initially because of some the weaker players making it fairly high before, but since they are not the same players things should straighten out by the 3rd CWF or so.
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    Never gunna happen.
    Do you have any idea how much time that will take the developers to produce?
    If the new junior development team cant even get the code right to make a monster appear in HR, u think they can organize such a seeding based on previous performance.
    Theyre more likely to stop CW than to alter it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    That is exactly what I mean. The formation that gives you the most power is not what you would use in PvP. The best indication of how 'strong' you are in PvP is past performance in CWF, at least in my opinion. It may be a little lopsided initially because of some the weaker players making it fairly high before, but since they are not the same players things should straighten out by the 3rd CWF or so.
    thats not the point.
    if a for example 1.2B power player would power down to 100k power (or whatever would be the lowest in the tournament) to exploit the system, he would be matched up with the either highest player or someone next to them. swince its a KO tourney the 1.2B player would have to either power up to beat the top player or get knocked out early. lets assume he powered back up to 1.2B then his new rating for the round 2 would be 1.2B and he would face another low player.
    if he on the other hand wouldnt have powered down then he would have had an easy first round...

    so if you strictly match up the highest with the lowest, the 2nd highest with the 2nd lowest then there would be no exploiting possible. however, a KO tourney like this could be frustrating to the lowest players who wont make it past round 1 (i am not saying they should deserve more). the way how it is currently i dont mind seeing 300m players once in a while in round 4 or even 5. good for them and they got lucky. if 2 players meet up early, fine so be it and tough luck... it could have been someone else.


    Quote Originally Posted by service_8572198 View Post
    Never gunna happen.
    Do you have any idea how much time that will take the developers to produce?
    If the new junior development team cant even get the code right to make a monster appear in HR, u think they can organize such a seeding based on previous performance.
    Theyre more likely to stop CW than to alter it
    software would do it for them

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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829 View Post
    thats not the point.
    if a for example 1.2B power player would power down to 100k power (or whatever would be the lowest in the tournament) to exploit the system, he would be matched up with the either highest player or someone next to them. swince its a KO tourney the 1.2B player would have to either power up to beat the top player or get knocked out early. lets assume he powered back up to 1.2B then his new rating for the round 2 would be 1.2B and he would face another low player.
    if he on the other hand wouldnt have powered down then he would have had an easy first round...

    so if you strictly match up the highest with the lowest, the 2nd highest with the 2nd lowest then there would be no exploiting possible. however, a KO tourney like this could be frustrating to the lowest players who wont make it past round 1 (i am not saying they should deserve more). the way how it is currently i dont mind seeing 300m players once in a while in round 4 or even 5. good for them and they got lucky. if 2 players meet up early, fine so be it and tough luck... it could have been someone else.



    software would do it for them
    My proposal is that the first determination for the seeding is based on how far they advanced on the last 20 tournaments. Manipulating power does affect that. If two or more players have the same number of points, then the number of wins they had in the preliminaries is used next. If still tied then the max power. Power does not come into commiseration until the last tie breaker. The main consideration and first tie beaker is based on tournament performance.
    The opinions expressed on this post are my own as a player, not as a Moderator.

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    But why should the top players get an easy path to the final?
    If they are the strongest then it wont matter to them who they face and when>
    All seeding would achieve is to completely remove any chance of a smaller player getting past KO 1
    Maybe they shouldnt be able to, but as with any KO competition it should be down to the luck of the draw

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