CW Nerfing

[kaisim_2492829]

The only thing I wish that Tynon would fix is the simple view on the players when your researching them to see if you want to bet on them or not.

As I understand it now the formation shown is off compared to what the player actually has in their CW formation. I know this to be true because watching the players in view player before and after the 1 minute (you can't change formation), showed the same formation for Fluer last night but Fluer's actual fight had different formations during battle compared to the preview.

It can show:

A. What Tynon saw when they joined CW
B. What they uploaded as a player
C. What thier formation is on their particular sever

I'm almost convinced you can change formation in the prompt box and close it and your formation will change without you having to hit the upload button which is an advantage to any player because nobody can see what your actually doing. Anyway I'll experiment on the next CW to see if that is the case.

it shows the current heroes from your formation on the server itself.

[MisChief]

I don't think that is right. Often my "actual" form, and the form i'm fighting with in CW are different. It displays last uploaded one.

Actually, i will correct myself ~ it doesn't show form at all. It only shows the heroes. How they hide heroes is the problem. You can't make an informed decision on bets when you are not informed, i think is the problem he was trying to point out.

[kaisim_2492829]

it shows the current heroes from your formation on the server itself.

I don't think that is right. Often my "actual" form, and the form i'm fighting with in CW are different. It displays last uploaded one.

Actually, i will correct myself ~ it doesn't show form at all. It only shows the heroes. How they hide heroes is the problem. You can't make an informed decision on bets when you are not informed, i think is the problem he was trying to point out.

read it again....

let me make an example:
for the example you have uploaded into the CW your exact current formation. then on the server you remove all heroes but your main and adam and DO NOT update the CW formation. you will then fight in CW with the last formation you had UPLOADED but it will show the heroes (main and adam only) with armor and runes of your CURRENT formation from your server.

[FlandreScarlet_7896971]

If I were to be on Riots server when he thinks himself so clever to hide his hero's as such; I think it'd be a great opportunity for that revenge

[Revan]

there is a lot more to it. for example the bidding from the other players comes into it as well. your quote is the default for the "obvious" winner where all bid on. if you are winning as being the underdog your winnings are significantly higher, just like for you bidding as an outsider.

Okay so there is a reason behind Blayd throwing fights then powering back up later. I've only ever made it past knockout I once, so I never got to rounds where the number of people betting would have a significant impact.

[emily_b111_841604]

This is thankfully rare in Europe but it happens on a regular basis in US and Asia. .

Thanks for coming down from your ivory tower and weighing in with your "insight".
I didnt realise you played the asian servers, and have first hand knowledge of the goings on.
Stick to the moderating.

Back to the topic of the thread, Dawnseeker did say that this is permissable. If someone chooses to do this, it must surely indicate deficiencies in the system. Maybe tynon could update there tired game.

[Morgan le Fay]

Thanks for coming down from your ivory tower and weighing in with your "insight".
I didnt realise you played the asian servers, and have first hand knowledge of the goings on.
Stick to the moderating.

Back to the topic of the thread, Dawnseeker did say that this is permissable. If someone chooses to do this, it must surely indicate deficiencies in the system. Maybe tynon could update there tired game.

Seems I'm not the only one who's come down out of their ivory tower. I'm also allowed to offer my opinion as much as you are.

Anyway lets clear up a few things.

I don't need 'first hand knowledge' of the goings on in different divisions, it's been repeatedly reported both yourself and Blayd frequently fix matches. Although I have given my opinion on the matter previously, I will say this; if anyone dares speak about match fixing you both run out here defending what you do. It's not my place to cast judgement on your behaviour but it seems to me you both have guilty consciences. In other words you both know it's wrong at some level.

Secondly, Dawnseeker only gave his opinion on one particular occasion and that was the person concerned hadn't cheated but it was absurd. After that Tynon fixed it that guildmates were unlikely to face each other in the finals. That doesn't make it 'permissible' at all. I really hope Tynon come up with a way to stop this. By that I mean preventing it happening and not changing the rewards to suit individuals. However, until then players like yourself have us over a barrel so to speak playing CWF how they want to rather than way it was intended.

[emily_b111_841604]

I don't need 'first hand knowledge' of the goings on in different divisions, it's been repeatedly reported both yourself and Blayd frequently fix matches. Although I have given my opinion on the matter previously, I will say this; if anyone dares speak about match fixing you both run out here defending what you do. It's not my place to cast judgement on your behaviour but it seems to me you both have guilty consciences. In other words you both know it's wrong at some level.

Secondly, Dawnseeker only gave his opinion on one particular occasion and that was the person concerned hadn't cheated but it was absurd. After that Tynon fixed it that guildmates were unlikely to face each other in the finals. That doesn't make it 'permissible' at all. I really hope Tynon come up with a way to stop this. By that I mean preventing it happening and not changing the rewards to suit individuals. However, until then players like yourself have us over a barrel so to speak playing CWF how they want to rather than way it was intended.

1. Do you understand what hearsay is? Dont post based on unverified information not direct from you, as if its fact.
2. Do you understand what match fixing is? Requires a sport, and a betting conspiracy.
3. Don't use the word cheat in association with my name on the forum. Be it implied or otherwise. What Dawnseeker says stands, until another game dev says otherwise. Lets not re interpret his meaning for situations he didnt factor in.
4.I've made 10 posts, in which i have never felt the need to defend anything that ive done in game. Ive made suggestions, ive cleared up incorrect statements.
5. Ive played my guild host in 2 CW finals. Tynon didnt change a thing in relation to making it more difficult.
6. Who are you to talk about morals? No morals clause in this game, and irrelevant.
7. Do you understand what fact checking is?

Finally, and this is my final post in this thread, as it is futile to debate with someone who is so consistently wrong. Dont lump me in with other players, as if i act in the same manner as them. Its unbecoming for someone in your position to make so many inaccurate statements.

[kaisim_2492829]

1. Do you understand what hearsay is? Dont post based on unverified information not direct from you, as if its fact.
2. Do you understand what match fixing is? Requires a sport, and a betting conspiracy.
3. Don't use the word cheat in association with my name on the forum. Be it implied or otherwise. What Dawnseeker says stands, until another game dev says otherwise. Lets not re interpret his meaning for situations he didnt factor in.
4.I've made 10 posts, in which i have never felt the need to defend anything that ive done in game. Ive made suggestions, ive cleared up incorrect statements.

you actually have. this thread was about fixing CW matches and you where called out on fixing matches and dropping your runes or armor or both to fix the outcome of the match.
that being said, you are the most condescending person on this forum and you are wrong if you have us all fooled. as much as i usually disagree with morgan but his post was spot on and you saying you are never defending yourself is pathetic while defending yourself about accusations that where made in the past and the only reason why there was not more complaining about you on this forum is because you dont make as many "waves" in the water as others do while defending their exploitations with match fixing, cheating and alts.

[Morgan le Fay]

1. Do you understand what hearsay is? Dont post based on unverified information not direct from you, as if its fact.

Considering someone posted a link showing you very clearly powered down, I think I can call that a fact.

2. Do you understand what match fixing is? Requires a sport, and a betting conspiracy.

Match fixing can take place in online games. Although the currency is only in game, betting is also part of CWF.

3. Don't use the word cheat in association with my name on the forum. Be it implied or otherwise. What Dawnseeker says stands, until another game dev says otherwise. Lets not re interpret his meaning for situations he didnt factor in.

I didn't misinterpret it, you did! Dawnseeker does not work for uCool any more so I'm afraid what was relevant then is no longer so. I also said uCool tweaked it so guildies shouldn't end up facing each other in the finals again. Which sort of suggests that uCool doesn't approve of match fixing. Oh I never said you were cheating either, you said that all by yourself.

4.I've made 10 posts, in which i have never felt the need to defend anything that ive done in game. Ive made suggestions, ive cleared up incorrect statements.

The only suggestions you have made have been pretty self serving. The rest have been you defending yourself in the latest 'stop CWF match fixing' thread.

5. Ive played my guild host in 2 CW finals. Tynon didnt change a thing in relation to making it more difficult.

Cool story. Doesn't change the fact you have powered down for at least one match.

6. Who are you to talk about morals? No morals clause in this game, and irrelevant.

All games video and otherwise require morals. Otherwise there would be no fair play so yes it is very relevant.

7. Do you understand what fact checking is?

Pretty much since I seem know the facts better than you.

Finally, and this is my final post in this thread, as it is futile to debate with someone who is so consistently wrong. Dont lump me in with other players, as if i act in the same manner as them. Its unbecoming for someone in your position to make so many inaccurate statements.

You are the one defending yourself and pretty poorly it seems. I wasn't 'lumping' anyone, you are the one who attacked me remember? I was trying to be general as possible but you took it personally so the only person you have to blame is yourself.