Cheaters beware..ya right

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

Pshaw! You're just trying to move up the ladder in CW.

I agree that calling out a player for cheating, then cheating more on others' accounts, seems like little more than speculation without some proof. What's the saying? Pics or it didn't happen. That being said, I don't fret much about some of the little exploits. Heck, isn't refreshing during banish an exploit? If someone wants to waste their time trying to get a better score in labs, there's not much to do about it. I'll take my 5 minutes and be happy with a 600. Maybe more if I get good squares, maybe less if I get bad ones. Still, five minutes and I get on with other stuff. Lemon squeezy.

Don't sweat the petty things and everything just gets better. Also, don't pet the sweaty things.

You know me too well!

Refreshing during banish to give a better outcome of rewards is indeed an exploit!
The reason I would exploit a lab (still can't dc properly) and others would exploit a lab is to get the spirits from the 800 scores. (That was the main reason, but now is just to get to lvl 120.)

What annoys me is the fact that people here can see Tynon WON'T do anything about the exploits but they still complain about it. People must stop complaining and move into what has become a reality for the game. If you don't like what has become a reality for the game then find a way to deal with it or go somewhere else, simple!

[kaisim_2492829]

refreshing during banish is NOT an exploit since it still got the same deathpenalty downtime as the game intended.

[Morgan le Fay]

refreshing during banish is NOT an exploit since it still got the same deathpenalty downtime as the game intended.

I hate to break it to you but you can't call 'powering down' in CWF an exploit and refreshing in Banish completely legit.

They both are gameplay exploits, using the game mechanics to benefit you.

[kaisim_2492829]

I hate to break it to you but you can't call 'powering down' in CWF an exploit and refreshing in Banish completely legit.

They both are gameplay exploits, using the game mechanics to benefit you.

actually the result button was originally designed for banish and was removed because it was so bugged. it was left on high seas until the problem was fixed and then added to normal battles and quest after. it just has never been added back into banish as it was originally planned.

now to the other facts: to exploit something you need a personal gain, therefore there is no personal gain or loss to anyone out of the banish if you refresh. the only loss you would suffer is if you do not refresh, then you would suffer the (originally unexpected) extended rounds in gameplay that go past the 1 minute deathpenalty while the game continues. you can also have that confirmed if:
- someone sends you a revenge during a battle
- you acknowledge that the end of the battle is determined at the point of "entry"
- if you time it correctly you run up the hill while you do your runes in temple

now to the exploits during powering down in CW:
i would agree with you if one player decided to throw ALL matches against one opponent, however if that player is selective over which matches he decides to win or loose, then in that exact moment he is cheating. then you would also have to determine if he exploited to cheat (gain tickets) or if he exploited to help someone else cheat.

[mparton_1280808]

"now to the other facts: to exploit something you need a personal gain, therefore there is no personal gain or loss to anyone out of the banish if you refresh. the only loss you would suffer is if you do not refresh, then you would suffer the (originally unexpected) extended rounds in gameplay that go past the 1 minute deathpenalty while the game continues."

In other words -- there is a HUGE personal benefit to refreshing. It means you do e.g. 75 million damage each minute, rather than the same 75m damage each 5 minutes. So you do 5 times the damage. (more or less). And get 5x the rewards you would have gotten if you didnt refresh.

[Sparta_565336]

Wow ok!

I didn't want to offend you or anything, but if you say something is happening (hacks in this case) show your proof!
Until you are able to support your own statements, then my dear fellow, I will also allow you to shut your neck (I thought it was shut your trap, but ok!)
I'm most certainly aware of the possibility of hacks out there as it was done to my works whole IT department (Woah lets not go too off topic here )
You my dear fellow are the one who appears to be trolling for the argument since you present this issue to us but give no proof.

Now my dear fellow, until you can read my posts with another ounce of meaning and a few spoons of sincerity from the bottom of what heart you got to see the true honesty of what I post, then, I advise you to have at least one cup of shut the 'neck' up! (I'm still confused, I never knew you could shut your neck! )

P.S: I know how to disconnect my internet, but the server takes too long to respond to the disconnection, thereby, the moves of the destiny will still be deducted.
P.P.S: No smart asses are welcome here, the forums is a place to show others what experience we got. Not to flame and troll others.

When you jump on my comments fella, then it is you who is flaming. The whole point of the matter is to establish Tynons non involvement in resolving issues that sometime give others unfair advantages. I know this person in question because when they were in my guild, they did the same thing. Just now, they take it to another level, we had a discussion about it in skype, and how this method would change things in a big way. So ya, the proof is there. I need not prove it to you, because your just trying to dismiss the point. There is no arguement, just facts that i can debate all day long. We know the exploit here, but that is not the case as in logging into others accounts AND using 3rd party software. If yo need guidance on the topic, please follow what Morgan is saying.

[davidschlebusch_6020359]

When you jump on my comments fella, then it is you who is flaming. The whole point of the matter is to establish Tynons non involvement in resolving issues that sometime give others unfair advantages. I know this person in question because when they were in my guild, they did the same thing. Just now, they take it to another level, we had a discussion about it in skype, and how this method would change things in a big way. So ya, the proof is there. I need not prove it to you, because your just trying to dismiss the point. There is no arguement, just facts that i can debate all day long. We know the exploit here, but that is not the case as in logging into others accounts AND using 3rd party software. If yo need guidance on the topic, please follow what Morgan is saying.

I'm not trying to dismiss the point, instead, I'm trying to see with what physical evidence you're supporting your statement of specifically 'third party hacks'. Without evidence, I will be obliged to dismiss your point!
In my mind a hack for a game is something that generates you tons of gems, coins and credits. If somebody were hacking the game then they would have ALL equipment at lvl 120 as well as ALL chips around lvl 10+. (We all know that NO ONE in this game has ALL equipment at LVL 120!) Therefore, whoever is 'hacking' this game either has a very big credit card and some very deep pockets where they're money gets them tons of things or the person isn't doing a very good job at 'professional hacking.'

The only 3rd party software which I've ever used is GS Autoclicker for my runes and tavern!
No one like me got any time for all that clicking!

P.S: If you don't like the fact that I use an Autoclicker for runes and tavern the either quit or do the same as me!

[kaisim_2492829]

"now to the other facts: to exploit something you need a personal gain, therefore there is no personal gain or loss to anyone out of the banish if you refresh. the only loss you would suffer is if you do not refresh, then you would suffer the (originally unexpected) extended rounds in gameplay that go past the 1 minute deathpenalty while the game continues."

In other words -- there is a HUGE personal benefit to refreshing. It means you do e.g. 75 million damage each minute, rather than the same 75m damage each 5 minutes. So you do 5 times the damage. (more or less). And get 5x the rewards you would have gotten if you didnt refresh.

yeah i did not expect you to understand the logic on the first try, but lets try to waste everyones time and rephrase it and maybe start a flaming war?
sigh, maybe you get lucky on that one, but just in this case: if you do not refresh, then you will suffer the consequences of the bug (=extended time in battle = suffering loss of total damage).

your example is off, how about a missing traffic light. everyone stops where they are supposed to stop, looks if the path is open and then crosses the intersection. in your example you are suggesting that the traffic light is missing, therefore everyone closes their eyes and hopes for the best.

[emily_b111_841604]

I hate to break it to you but you can't call 'powering down' in CWF an exploit and refreshing in Banish completely legit.

They both are gameplay exploits, using the game mechanics to benefit you.

I can't believe im going to say this, but i agree with morgan 100%.
Strange times indeed.

Because he is not in a postion to power down at the business end of CW, and unable to enjoy the benefits, he considers it an exploit.

On the topic of CW, congrats to Soulight on winning the most recent Asian CW outing. Entertaining final, and i would really like to see the sancts on your awesome dawnseeker

[Borentar_4092384]

As for awesome dawnbringer, he is ranked 4th top hero on the server, at only dom 1, that is pretty impressive... but db is fully starred... soul holds the top 23 spots in the hero ranks...
As for (We all know that NO ONE in this game has ALL equipment at LVL 120!) i can say you are misinformed there david...