okay i had to come back to say this, the point of this thread is that people want tynon to stop focusing on new consumers for one second and focus on its current consumers, i know it's probably harder than we make it out to be but it's something that they should at least take into consideration.You can't sit there and say that it new servers opening every week does nothing, and you can't make an assumption that it's the guilds fault for a lack of effort. If people see big players and figure its no point in trying to progress there, they'll see that the new server is opening in a few days and give up on the current server, oh? they missed their chance on that one? no problem there's another one the day after that, oh? they missed that one? no problem because there's another one the next day, oh? you get the picture now? if a player was given the time to grow "attatched" to the current account they would most likely, not surely, most likely stay active on the current account no? and as for the VIP remark, ppl pay for the game because tynon is a great game, it has potential and they want the potential to be brought out, so why not spend to try to bring that potential. IMO Morgan you need to get off your high horse and find a thick skull reduction surgery please...