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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622 View Post
    I agree with the "run banish like Rag", it would definitely give the none exploiters a better chance. Also it would aggravate the idiots with their alts in banish. Win win.
    i just dont see it. i actually think it would benefit the alts instead. i mean think about it:
    - no flash lag due to running in the background
    - fights happen at highspeed and "result" when the next battle (re-entry) comes up
    - players dont have to be there anymore and/or can go afk
    - more accounts can be loaded at once

    how would this aggravate anyone but actually not benefit the alts more than the regular players?

    ps: refreshing between battles to avoid watching battles that last 20-30 rounds is not an exploit since originally there was a "result" button but was removed because it was causing bugs and not working properly. therefore having not to be forced watching the entire battle is enjoying the game as it was originally intended.
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    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
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    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
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    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    Huh??? Players do not have to be there now. Only the exploiters have to be there. The alts would all have to be better then the other toons to do any good in the banish, unlike now where a crummy exploiter toon gets more % then non exploiters
    The game as it was originally intended???? How would you know that? Are you one of those tynon toons that all the paranoids worry about??
    More accounts can be loaded at once?? What is there a cap on the amount of alts one can have? Baal, 7 people, The winner and his 2 alts, The losers the other 4.
    If Tynon can't figure it out they should banish the banish and come up with a better challenge.
    Instead of wasting your time trying to aggravate people try to think before you speak.

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    The point isn't to prevent alts from getting Banish rewards. Heck, NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE GAME CARES.
    What people actually CARE about is alts jumping in to TAKE REWARDS FROM REAL PLAYERS.
    Its not the alts getting banish rewards that matter, its the fact that in the current system, every percent of damage the alts do is one percent less to be shared with the main accounts. And with a lot of alts.. thats a good chunk of rewards that can be taken away.
    Under a Rag-style system based on a time limit rather than a limited, capped, pool of hit points (and hence rewards), no body would give a s**t about alts participating. Except for taking last hit.. but I think they should just get rid of last hit then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622 View Post
    Huh??? Players do not have to be there now. Only the exploiters have to be there. The alts would all have to be better then the other toons to do any good in the banish, unlike now where a crummy exploiter toon gets more % then non exploiters
    The game as it was originally intended???? How would you know that? Are you one of those tynon toons that all the paranoids worry about??
    More accounts can be loaded at once?? What is there a cap on the amount of alts one can have? Baal, 7 people, The winner and his 2 alts, The losers the other 4.
    If Tynon can't figure it out they should banish the banish and come up with a better challenge.
    Instead of wasting your time trying to aggravate people try to think before you speak.
    you should rethink the above said. but i am here to help you out, so lets go into detail:

    "Players do not have to be there now. Only the exploiters have to be there."
    i am assuming that with "exploit" you mean refreshing. so if i dont refresh between battles i do roughly 30% and with refresh i do 50%. if you however run a lot of alts instead then you are most likely not refreshing those, but if you would have a banish with a ragna like set up then you would not have to refresh at all anymore.

    "The game as it was originally intended???? How would you know that? Are you one of those tynon toons that all the paranoids worry about?? "
    there is many players here that can tell you about that, i think it was herby who mentioned it to me first and i am not sure what you are worried about in your paranoia but i believe morgan got instructions for you on how to make your own personal tinfoilhat.

    "More accounts can be loaded at once?? What is there a cap on the amount of alts one can have? Baal, 7 people, The winner and his 2 alts, The losers the other 4. "
    yes if the exploiter with all those alts needs to use multiple computers to do so, if the game would run in the background then he/she could load up even more alts since there is no more or less lag and it uses up less recourses per computer. as for your fictional example, i thought the exploiters would use a lot of alts to be able to farm them for coins after from a different realm on a different banish. if the guy is running his alts in the same banish isnt that kinda like shooting himself into the foot? i mean i can solo the 1.25 banish if i would start boosting 80-100% and i know i am not the only one that can. ... lol and yes there is a cap on alts and that would be zero. however the exploiters, cheaters or whatever you call them can only use as many alts as they have hardware for.

    "Instead of wasting your time trying to aggravate people try to think before you speak."
    i suggest to go punch some more holes into your walls and calm yourself down before you ragepost again. you remind me of a rioting little boy having a tantrum rolling over on the floor
    Last edited by kaisim_2492829; 07-26-2014 at 01:34 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    oh the last hit in my rag style banish is replaced with first blood first strike reward given out randomly

    i also think that if we switch to this
    the amount of coins/ceds syou get per damage should be reduced greatly

    in a 1.25b banish you get 1m coins per 12.5m damage you do i would like to see this get reduce d in my rag style banish to say 1m coins per 50m damage
    BUT
    the guild tech bonus, city bonus and rc bonuses should be applied to banish rewards. The rep binus already is form cities but thats the only one I know of that actually gets applied to banish. But the coin/credit city bonus the coin credit bonus from rc and the guild tech for more credits form killing monsters should then get applied to banish. or a new guild tech be added that allows you to increase rewards from banish

    If they wont apply all these bonuses to banish then i think
    1m coins per 25m damage would be appropriate

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    oh the last hit in my rag style banish is replaced with first blood first strike reward given out randomly

    i also think that if we switch to this
    the amount of coins/ceds syou get per damage should be reduced greatly

    in a 1.25b banish you get 1m coins per 12.5m damage you do i would like to see this get reduce d in my rag style banish to say 1m coins per 50m damage
    BUT
    the guild tech bonus, city bonus and rc bonuses should be applied to banish rewards. The rep binus already is form cities but thats the only one I know of that actually gets applied to banish. But the coin/credit city bonus the coin credit bonus from rc and the guild tech for more credits form killing monsters should then get applied to banish. or a new guild tech be added that allows you to increase rewards from banish

    If they wont apply all these bonuses to banish then i think
    1m coins per 25m damage would be appropriate
    I like most of MattP's suggestion EXCEPT using guild tech to apply to Banish. Especially not a tech that specifically boosts Banish rewards. Banish should be based on forms and strength only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    [...]
    the guild tech bonus, city bonus and rc bonuses should be applied to banish rewards. The rep binus already is form cities but thats the only one I know of that actually gets applied to banish. But the coin/credit city bonus the coin credit bonus from rc and the guild tech for more credits form killing monsters should then get applied to banish.[...]
    this should have done long time ago. as a fact it is today. currently coins from city bonuses are applied to the banish and then deducted. it just happens instantly. how you can see that is sometimes it bugs out and doesnt deduct the coins (which i believe is caused by sync error) and shows you the true amount of coins only after you refreshed.

    the idea of banish boosting with guild techs i love, i also suggested it in the past (and am not the only one) along with a mount guild skill (more xp, less coodown, whatever comes to the devs mind).
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    [...]This is likely a case of collective obsessional behavior (i.e. group delusion). This can spread rapidly through any group based on fear and rumors without any objective facts. We've seen it happen numerous times in Tynon already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    The forums sure has fallen from grace, turning into a vent-fest, instead of people sharing ideas and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by riot View Post
    I choose to lose the way I do so I can get max tickets when I give up the CWF.

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    To be totally honest, why shouldnt higher levels earn high amounts of coins from banish. When they started they were getting low amounts and then spent a lot of time building themselves up so they could compete in banish and earn greater rewards. So, its up to low level players to do the same as players have worked hard making themselves stronger to get those rewards so i think they deserve it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZARA-STORM_6088890 View Post
    To be totally honest, why shouldnt higher levels earn high amounts of coins from banish. When they started they were getting low amounts and then spent a lot of time building themselves up so they could compete in banish and earn greater rewards. So, its up to low level players to do the same as players have worked hard making themselves stronger to get those rewards so i think they deserve it
    A question that has been asked many times but has received no 'direct' response from tynon regarding the issue

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    Read over this a few times, and am still trying to figure out what all this all means.

    I have one address, and a few demo tunes for nephews, showing Tynon, the game off at Best Buy, etc... the kids are fascinated by Banish Baal.

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